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post Jun 10 2007, 07:42 PM
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I've started a thread (as kalindoscopy) about kenosis: any gnostics/qabalists willing to contribute their thoughts (here or there) to the argument? Other angles would be interesting

Ed. this should link: .http://angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14709

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post Jun 15 2007, 05:53 PM
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Ave,

You should have possibly explained the term "kenosis" and given a bit more info in order to get more replies. However, I am both a Gnostic and Qabalist, so I will make some initial comments:

"kenosis", which means "emptiness" or "emptying" could be likened to the Pleroma of the Gnostics, which is, while a Fullness, a kind of paradoxical empty fullness. Likewise for Qabalists there are the Three Negative Veils of Existence: Ain, Ain Soph, and Ain Soph Aur, Nothing, the Limitless, and the Limitless Light. These, especially the first, would correspond well to the Pleroma, and also represent a kind of empty fullness. It is a state of "nothing", but it contains everything else. This is what occurs, in essence, when we become silent and "empty ourselves" - the emptying allows us to become full.

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QUOTE(Frater Yechidah @ Jun 15 2007, 07:53 PM) *
Ave,

You should have possibly explained the term "kenosis" and given a bit more info in order to get more replies. However, I am both a Gnostic and Qabalist, so I will make some initial comments:

"kenosis", which means "emptiness" or "emptying" could be likened to the Pleroma of the Gnostics, which is, while a Fullness, a kind of paradoxical empty fullness. Likewise for Qabalists there are the Three Negative Veils of Existence: Ain, Ain Soph, and Ain Soph Aur, Nothing, the Limitless, and the Limitless Light. These, especially the first, would correspond well to the Pleroma, and also represent a kind of empty fullness. It is a state of "nothing", but it contains everything else. This is what occurs, in essence, when we become silent and "empty ourselves" - the emptying allows us to become full.

LLLSHJ,
Yechidah.

wow!!!!!I think I found the person to talk about gnosis, its so strangelly popular now days, I think its because of "the DaVinci code".......I'm glad I found you


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