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 Typhonian Currents Mixing With Simonomicon?, could these two magical paradigms be used together?
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post Jun 22 2007, 02:38 PM
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In the book Nightside of Eden by Kenneth Grant, he speaks about the Tree Of Death (the Qlipoth) as being somewhat outer dimensional. The way he speaks of the different spheres is in a more extraterrestrial/alien sense then how most people describe it. Most speak about the ruling demons in that sphere, as does Grant, but they make it seem more down to earth. Grant does not. The only book that I have ever found with writing similar to the way he descrbes the spheres is the Necronomicon by Simon.

Now, being the chaote that I am, I was wondering if it would be possible to use the two traditions together. Btw, the Typhonian/Setian tradition does give information about Grant's point of view, but there views are much more antagonistic. Grant tended to see the influences from certain Lovecraftian/Cthulhu Mythos entities as being negative to the planet and that some had to be stopped. I have not finished the book, but this is what I have gotten from reviews and my own reading.

For anyone interested in his books, btw, Starfire Publishing is republishing them. This is good because the books that are out already (his Typhonian Trilogies) are quite expensive. The new prints will be much cheaper.


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post Jun 22 2007, 07:02 PM
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outer gateways by kenneth grant combines both into one current the best.


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post Jun 23 2007, 04:04 AM
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You should also check writings by Michael Bertiaux.

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post Jun 23 2007, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(distillate @ Jun 22 2007, 06:02 PM) *
outer gateways by kenneth grant combines both into one current the best.


Outer Gateways does alright, but doesn't really present anything fully usable; merely an outline. At least, that is how I see it now.


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post Jun 25 2007, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(Kranos @ Jun 23 2007, 11:56 AM) *
Outer Gateways does alright, but doesn't really present anything fully usable; merely an outline. At least, that is how I see it now.



I think it is totally usuable if you understand the mystery behind it. True the book will not take you by the hand and tell you how to use the power, that is were all your boring OTO meditations and rituals that you had to do when you first started come in handy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . He is writing the book from a perspective in which he thinks the reader is advanced.


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post Jun 25 2007, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(distillate @ Jun 25 2007, 02:29 PM) *
I think it is totally usuable if you understand the mystery behind it. True the book will not take you by the hand and tell you how to use the power, that is were all your boring OTO meditations and rituals that you had to do when you first started come in handy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . He is writing the book from a perspective in which he thinks the reader is advanced.


Ok you guys are getting me interested in Grant. Which book is better or should be read first before reading the other?

Outer Gateways or Nightside of Eden?

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post Jun 25 2007, 02:06 PM
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I'd recommend Nightside of Eden first
Nightside is still readily available for 40 bucks or so
but be warned Grant is not an easy read (for me) and his other tomes are very hard to find and usually very expensive
but extremely fascinating stuff.

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post Jun 25 2007, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(distillate @ Jun 22 2007, 08:02 PM) *
outer gateways by kenneth grant combines both into one current the best.


It has been a while since I read it, what did Grant write about the simonomicon?


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post Jun 27 2007, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(nox @ Jun 25 2007, 06:06 PM) *
It has been a while since I read it, what did Grant write about the simonomicon?


alot. actually quoted the simon nec 30 odd times. To explain what grant said on a message board without someone reading the book would be disrespectful.


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