Marian prophecy, Could somebody enlighten me on this Options

This Marian prophecy was revealed over a number of years from 1973 to 1979 to the late Veronica Lueken during Rosary Vigils at the Vatican Pavilion Site in Flushing Meadows Park, New York. Here is a condensed version:


My child and My children, do not be affrighted by My words. The world shall not come to an end. The Eternal Father has given His promise to mankind, that the world shall never be made extinct again, as in the past with the time of the floods. However, your world shall be cleansed with a 'baptism of fire'. Only a few, in the multitudes upon earth, shall be saved...
I have spoken to you of the BALL OF REDEMPTION to meet with much speculation from souls, I shall explain now, how this will come about: The ball will descend from the atmosphere of your earth: it will be from the heavens; it will not be man-made; it will be part of the universe.

In this chastisement, My children, billions will be lost. Many lives will be lost. You bring upon yourself a punishment far greater than ever has been seen upon earth and never shall be seen again, for when you go through this chastisement, there will be few creatures left upon earth.
Can you not understand that when the Ball of Redemption is sent upon you three-quarters of your world shall be gone?
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Does anybody know more on this prophesy...
go to http://www.newprophecy.net/comet.htm to know more

This post has been edited by mystick: Dec 29 2005, 01:34 AM

Well I don't know anything about this prophecy but I can tell you this sounds like an alien invasion where we get are asses kicked really bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

Most of what people pass off as prophecy is mere speculation and honestly, most of it just quite simply wrong.

Putting 'Ball of Redemption' in the search bar will bring up plenty of information if that is what you are looking for.

If you are asking if we think there is any truth in it, then I would say line up an end of times list started by say six different things and one of them is going to have at least some truth in it.

I would like to relive this topic.. I am researching on the Apocalypse or any thing of the sort.. Does anybody has more to share on these prophecies and thing of the sort that would occur.. The key dates till now are end 2006 and 2012...
well as a friend previously mentioned in this topic, it could be an alien invasion of some sort.. Well it might be.. what force could be so powerful for an alien power...

This post has been edited by mystick: Jun 19 2006, 11:34 AM

bals of fire, it could be our own doing, with a nuclear war.

Sounds like a big ass meteor to me, Armageddon and Deep Impact come to live (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)
Another day I read some archeological findings that lead scientists to speculate that the earth may have been wiped out over and over by meteor back to stone age. Maybe the earth has a self destruct timer when our civilization reach a certain age?

could be, but our current civilization is sure to leave some fossils behind. Computers, airplanes, concrete, vaults, factories.
Some of these things should point that out to future civilizations, that we where once intelligent.

Yes, that's what I was mentioning about. People had been finding tools in digs which is a relic out of place of their time. Do some search for weird, out of place relics and archeologiy online for more on this. It is possible that modern civilizations like ours had existed in the past. Even the Vedas recorded a nuclear war and "iron chariots" flying accross the sky.

Here's a some search results:
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa011402a.htm
Strange Relics

And here's one long interesting read:
Strange Relics from the Depths of the Earth

very intersting these finds. i wonder if we will be speculated upon in the distant future. Our civilization nothing more that such small finds that seem out of place.

Yes, that's what I was mentioning about. People had been finding tools in digs which is a relic out of place of their time. Do some search for weird, out of place relics and archeologiy online for more on this. It is possible that modern civilizations like ours had existed in the past. Even the Vedas recorded a nuclear war and "iron chariots" flying accross the sky.

Here's a some search results:
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa011402a.htm
Strange Relics

And here's one long interesting read:
Strange Relics from the Depths of the Earth

Wow.. hey thats really amazing whats on these sites.. I knew some of them but when you go about the majoriy of these stuff... But there must have been something that sort of blocked the technologies of these ancient times and prevented it from being transfered to another generation.. if there was any generation left??? strange strange...

BTW are the dates late 2006 or 2012 have any significance with the above prophecies???
If you look at a nuclear war, the second date can correspond to a third world war.. but if its from an alien power then theres no means to prepare for that?
Well prophecies i hope are probable futur and not the exact futur... Though a lot of prophecies of Nostradamus turned out to be real accurate...

Some people who can do divination or clairvoyance, what are your views on this prophecy?
I know 2 friends who gave me their interpretations and that doesnot sound pretty....

i really wonder.

Perhaps the prohpecies are right, then we will all be dead perhaps, by the end of 2012.
Personally, i hope not, i wish to learn and grow more.
I wish to die of old age, in my sleep, instead of being struck by some fireball.

Anyway, we will see i think. I have heard nothing official about this end of days.

Lets take it that there will be a meteor that will hit earth so bad that we'll get our @$^%* molten and disintegrated.. Or lets say some alien force is going to use a powerful bomb to wipe off life over here or lets say that America will throw some nukes on russia and this will result in a nukes (tennis) court..



Now lets come to us people of the world.. We already are kicking each others %#^%... Its like what the british did to conquer India.. They used the principle of DIVIDE and RULE to make the different kingdoms of India go to war with each other so that ultimately the opposing force was too weak to repel British invasion...

Lets say that alien sightings are real and aliens are trying to manipulate the governements/religious leaders for the Divide and rule thing... this can e a possiblility if they want to colonise our planet.. The indians did not believe that initially but when the british came, you know history....



Now it could also be a thing that Gods wants us to realise that fighting for land that will not be used or for arrogance or due to different religious reason is a damn stupid thing to do and its what civilisation is up to... The only way to advance is throught cooperation.. Its how Gandhi "reconquered" India from the British.....

Now my supposition is that If such calamities occurs, then cant we humans fight this? The mind is said to have infinite power if it is able to go beyond the carnal shell to the Divine source.. One such power that i have heard of recently is:

Nuclear energy is infact energy from the splitting of atoms from the famous eq e=mc2... But i will surprise a lot if i say that the mind can create such an energy.. Its not confirmed to my level!!! this is the power of tantra.... In Tantra nuclear power is called Brambran(brambha is the lord of creation) a concept that existed long long ago.. If the mind could be made to influence atoms in such a way, this chain reaction could lead to this nuclear explosion....

My knowledge on this is limited here as its something that has been kept secret and goes on like a rumor... But it cant be impossible...



If We believe in powers of Michael or spirits that can make rain fall or Deities that have performed Indeed Intense energy manipulations, can we humans be granted such capabilities???

THe most powerful form of magic i have heard is Tantra... May be with the western forms also there might be more than spiritual uplift so that we humans could use to defend ourselves....



Well i went beyond topic here but its where my mind took me....

To summarise, i would like to ask, who believes, we as humans will be able to kick those evil forces that seek to harm the Kind souls over here...

(Now will come the analogy: who is the evil when men destroy ants colony to build roads)... here also i would like to stress that not all humans would really want to destroy the houses of the ants.. But then you will ask, may be those who will survive the apocalypse fall in this category ... But one will again say that those humans who would not want to destroy the ants colony do use the roads though....



Well I am still researching on the significance of an elimination of humanity.... and as you can find, there are loops that are confusing :-)





This post has been edited by mystick: Jun 20 2006, 11:34 AM

As humans we are not very environmental friendly. We act much like a plague that has wiped over the face of the earth, scarring its forest and fields with buildings and roads. Where once was a large forest, now is the city of new york.

Yet you could call this survival of the fittest, and right.

Then, when we are conquered by some stronger force, let us accept it for what it is, survival of the fittest.
Suddenly, it does not seem as logical anymore, this survival of the fittest, when we are on the recieving end.

I wonder how humanity would act.
Bears are prospering around the Tsjernobil nuclear reactor, they have adapted and like the absence of humans there very much. No need to fear hunters, no need to fear new roads and buildings. Nature is already swallowing up that place again.

Just some food for thought, after i read your interesting post this came to me.

As humans we are not very environmental friendly. We act much like a plague that has wiped over the face of the earth, scarring its forest and fields with buildings and roads. Bears are prospering around the Tsjernobil nuclear reactor, they have adapted.

Maybe animals are indeed fitter and more superior than man. They can apparently survive in conditions which kill humans. They do not build roads nor do they render forests into matchwood. They do not question and neither to they make War. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sculacciata.gif) They live in total harmony with nature and they accept their lot without question or a parliamentary debate.

Really this is just my comment and can be ignored (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Everything that has ever been written has had a fundamental grain of truth. I think that the balls of fire, 2012, Ends of Days... are metaphorical and allegorical. Even in the 21st Century most of mankind is so gullible as to believe a lot of twaddle, and the internet is made to measure to spoon out great dollops of BS. However, be that as it may, many of the ancient prophecies might have been fabricated as a means of controlling simple minds, and as mankind has apparently regressed into the clutches of mammon, so the firm grip and magik of the ancient soothsayer takes hold.

The prophecies, IMHO, are not much more than doom and gloom warnings that mankind in general should pull up his collective socks (and pants) and take stock of his situation before the atomic age becomes another stone age. Man had always wanted someone bigger and better that he is on which to hang his hat or place the blame when things go wrong. Then his gods had to have the mothers and the cousins and the sisters and the aunts, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) and then the rot set in.

I could go on ad nauseum, but I won't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sun.gif)

isn't mammon the god from that film. And as i remember correctly, the maker of that movie completely made the concept of mammon up. I thought i read that somewhere.

However i do agree that mankind is gullible. I have compared mankind with a flock of sheep, a herd if you will.
Where the herd seems to move on its own.

isn't mammon the god from that film. And as i remember correctly, the maker of that movie completely made the concept of mammon up. I thought i read that somewhere.

However i do agree that mankind is gullible. I have compared mankind with a flock of sheep, a herd if you will.
Where the herd seems to move on its own.

As far as prophecys go I think this one sucks. Lets hope it was merely imagination and not intuition that this was derived from.

Everything that has ever been written has had a fundamental grain of truth. I think that the balls of fire, 2012, Ends of Days... are metaphorical and allegorical. Even in the 21st Century most of mankind is so gullible as to believe a lot of twaddle, and the internet is made to measure to spoon out great dollops of BS. However, be that as it may, many of the ancient prophecies might have been fabricated as a means of controlling simple minds, and as mankind has apparently regressed into the clutches of mammon, so the firm grip and magik of the ancient soothsayer takes hold.

The prophecies, IMHO, are not much more than doom and gloom warnings that mankind in general should pull up his collective socks (and pants) and take stock of his situation before the atomic age becomes another stone age. Man had always wanted someone bigger and better that he is on which to hang his hat or place the blame when things go wrong. Then his gods had to have the mothers and the cousins and the sisters and the aunts, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) and then the rot set in.

I could go on ad nauseum, but I won't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sun.gif)

Well as i am not real good in English, can you tell me what BS stands for?

However, be that as it may, many of the ancient prophecies might have been fabricated as a means of controlling simple minds, and as mankind has apparently regressed into the clutches of mammon, so the firm grip and magik of the ancient soothsayer takes hold.

that can be true... But still it does not mean that all divinations / clairvoyance or things of the sort are fabricated.. But these prophecies could have been made up after complex recursive analysis and possibilities of probable events .. I never say that i believe that we will get a$$ burnt with this ball or something of the sort.. May be it could be like a warning... so that one can better prepare to face any sort of apocalypse.. And here lets not take it onto aliens as you could take it a fabrication on my mind but the consequence of US.. an appocalypse can be brought by a nuclear war...

I know my words here wont make any difference to a lot of people but there are some that will grasp my implication of this topic... My english may not enable me to clearly interprete what i would like to say but hope some grasp my ultimate message here....

Man had always wanted someone bigger and better that he is on which to hang his hat or place the blame when things go wrong. Then his gods had to have the mothers and the cousins and the sisters and the aunts, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif) and then the rot set in.

What are you saying here??? cant get your idea

I could go on ad nauseum, but I won't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sun.gif)

I try to search on the online dictionary about your words... Is it your english that is too good or is it that your sentences are not complete or is it that there are words that are not that popular outside your country thats why i cant understand...

There are people over here who dont have English as first tongue... dont mind Elaborating and explaining the meaning on this..
I do know however that "A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth" defines the same concept as ad nauseum as in wikipedia.. but explain your sentence and why you said you wont go on that?

This post has been edited by mystick: Jun 21 2006, 12:48 AM

BS is taurus excretus (my latin is piggy) taurum excretum?? The droppings of a male cow.

The topic of whether there is a god/God/gods or not has been, and will be discussed forever... Ad nauseum, and to cut a long story short it was unanimously decided that the discussion should end where it did.

"A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth" is a truism and in itself cannot really be further brought into this discussion.

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Some of the Biblical prophecies that can be associated to this topic:
Normally if such things were to happen.. Cant humans prove this prophecies wrong? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bomb.gif)
Though i Could argue that The bible also has been tampered by religious leaders and indirectly by kings to be better able to manipulate their disciples and control them emotionally... and spiritually..

For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.
And if those days had not been shortened, no human being would be saved; but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened
Matthew 24:21, 22

I will set My glory among the nations; all the nations shall see My judgement which I have executed, and My hand which I have laid on them.
So the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God from that day forward.
Ezek. 39:21, 22

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This post has been edited by mystick: Jun 27 2006, 07:11 AM

"... When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning, it will be foul weather today: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?"
(Matt. 16:2-3)

Theres something i found funny/strange when i went through the web site of the vatican:
http://www.vatican.va/phome_en.htm , is that there is a section Vatican Secret Archives....
As if they really will reveal the secrets in their official website (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap.gif)

this reply is off topic but still i mentioned it as i was trying to find something related to the apocalype from the vatican or rather their official web site...


BTW when you go on resorces> bible>
you get only 1 bible name and its THE NEW AMERICAN BIBLE .....
Seriously.. Can anybody say why they have an American Bible and not a general one? I am not christian and may be i am missing something here (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif)

This post has been edited by mystick: Jun 27 2006, 07:26 AM

Great balls of fiery redemption.

Sounds like Chuck Norris had his testicles pictured again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

No seriously a fiery ball or Redemption ? Somehow Cayce, Nostradamus and all those other great prophets say that despite great crisis we will prevail and here we get a fiery ball of redemption.

Not that i dont take this seriously but perhaps a frozen square of Retribution would be more dramatic ? The things people come out with...

Not that i dont believe in divination and prophecies at large because i do but lately i read the book "prophecy of Orion" which was obviously written by either a junkie on heroine hunger or a man with a very vigorous imagination, continents travelled freely, atmosphere burned, all kinds of special effects including earths crust cracking, the only thing that the book lacked was a rain of supernovas.

Seems that this prophecy about fiery testicles...erm balls of redemption comes from the same school.

http://www.roses.org/prophecy/seqevnt.htm#rapture

And here you can find more about the prophecy of a fiery testicle, Jesus Christ its almost as good as the prophecy of orion, the only thing lacking are martians invading in alliance with communists.

This post has been edited by Socrates: Jun 28 2006, 10:59 PM

I hope these prophecies are not true.....
The thing is that still prophecies can be warnings.. I never mention that these will happen and my belief in them is as rigid as mountains..
Apocalypse is bound to happen to earth whether spiritual/ alien or natural.. Earth will one day be wiped out by the dying sun .. the earth will surely and scientifically turn into a ball of fire itself before exploding due to the heat of the dying sun.. All these are 99% probable events that are scientifically supported if life continues as it is...
The 1 % is that may be someday man could behold such a technology (science + magick) to prevent the destruction of the earth.... But what is most probable is the search of another habitable sphere (physical or astral) so that such things such as mass destruction of the human race do not occur..

My aim is not to come like a pessimistic guy and say these prophecies are bound to concretise... My aim is to make people realise that unity is the way to victory whether to an alien force or to the natural/manmade destruction of our race....

This post has been edited by mystick: Jun 29 2006, 04:05 AM

Well dudes,

Yesterday was full moon and after some simple offering to the moon God etc, i went to sleep. In the near morning i had a dream where in the sky appeared 2 full moons. I guess there was like something bad going to happen as the dream seemed somehow scary in feeling. some people in the dream were trying to tell others not to worry as this happened before and things went smoothly....



Why i put this here, is the feeling of destruction i had and another moon in the sky is like a glowing ball in the sky apart from the moon....



Mystick

Well hopefully technology can wack that 'Ball of Redemption' from the sky.....
god I love that name. Maybe I'm just a dork, "Ball of Redemption!" Sounds like a
finishing move of some kind (well I guess it would be a finishing move if it hits."