Help Neded, Some help please Options

Hi, I have been trying to project myself for some time now (not on a regular basis) and the thing is I simply can't make it to the astral. I start to see the little spots behind my eyelids and I never see any pictures (imagery) within them (some authors say that I should see some) or maybe I do see them and think that this is my imagination... well the point is I'm am not able to project and I was wondering if someone could help.

Here is how i do it:

1. lie in my bed
2. put some brainwave sound (theta or delta freq.)
3. look into my closed eyes
4. start to relax
5. i tell my self that i want to leave my body x2-3
now, after some 20 min i still don't get any results

I don't move at all, i breathe deeply, my body gets all heavy but still no projection.

Can someone tell me please what am I doing wrong?!?

You're thinking too much and not practicing enough. Astral projection takes a long time to really master and the first few times you do it it'll like only last for a few minutes, even seconds. AP requires more than following a few steps and presto. The reason I say your thinking too much is because inorder to really place the mind in an out of body state it needs to be quiet long enough for the body to adjust to the change. In order to learn how to quiet your mind you need to be able to meditate for at least 20 mintutes at ease. You probably know how to meditate, or at least what it is. But what a lot of people don't do is really shut the mind up to the point where they hear nothing but the sounds around them, as in their concsiousness keeps chattering away. Learn to shut that little voice up long enough to last for at least 20 min.

Next to improve your visualization skills; day dream. You should at least be able to see flashes of images. Over a period of several weeks you should be able to will specific images to you and be able to hold those images for at least a minute. If you cannot meditate as described or know how to visualize then it is no wonder why you cannot AP.

Remember to be patient. If you feel that you messed up on one step go back and redo it. Don't let your own anticipation for success be your enemy. You should be totally relaxed and have a state of mind that is indifferent towards success. Understand that once you are successful this indifference will be hard to maintain which is why the times you do it at first you'll only last a short while. Finally practice makes perfect. You really should practice at least once a day everyday, 20 min to 1 hr, for a minimum of six months to really be successful at astral projection.

Avoid short cuts - ie drugs.

You're thinking too much and not practicing enough. Astral projection takes a long time to really master and the first few times you do it it'll like only last for a few minutes, even seconds.

Even then, spellcaster, one may experience interference that acts metaphorically like TV snow/white noise-type interference.

put some brainwave sound (theta or delta freq.)

If you are honestly beginning your attempts at astral projection, this may hinder you. That only happens with some people, so the effect is hit or miss. Either way, it´s a better habit to try to do so without any aid from artificial influences. We are magickal beings. It should come naturally to us! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

The reason I say your thinking too much is because inorder to really place the mind in an out of body state it needs to be quiet long enough for the body to adjust to the change. In order to learn how to quiet your mind you need to be able to meditate for at least 20 mintutes at ease. You probably know how to meditate, or at least what it is. But what a lot of people don't do is really shut the mind up to the point where they hear nothing but the sounds around them, as in their concsiousness keeps chattering away. Learn to shut that little voice up long enough to last for at least 20 min.

Attempting a paradigm shift may also be effective in aiding one´s quest to the astral. The way we view reality has EVERY possible effect on our entire existence. Without expounding, it´s no problem to imagine how it can positively or negatively affect your ability to Astral Project. View of reality is a major part of relaxation.

Next to improve your visualization skills; day dream. You should at least be able to see flashes of images. Over a period of several weeks you should be able to will specific images to you and be able to hold those images for at least a minute. If you cannot meditate as described or know how to visualize then it is no wonder why you cannot AP.

Another important addendum to this is that one should also recenter themselves after each daydream session, or the feelings and thoughts from the daydream crossover to your realm of reality. This may prove dangerous, as some energies may prove to be rather... stubborn to release.

Remember to be patient. If you feel that you messed up on one step go back and redo it. Don't let your own anticipation for success be your enemy. You should be totally relaxed and have a state of mind that is indifferent towards success. Understand that once you are successful this indifference will be hard to maintain which is why the times you do it at first you'll only last a short while. Finally practice makes perfect. You really should practice at least once a day everyday, 20 min to 1 hr, for a minimum of six months to really be successful at astral projection.

I just decided to put this one in quotes because it´s just worth repeating. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Another thing to remember is that the energies of the universe come to YOU. I managed to be conscious enough for a moment during my first astral projection. During this time, there was a strange feeling, that carried the vibe of permission. The universe was asking me, similar to how a computer asks a user, but nonverbally, "Do you wish to astral project?" or almost "Would you like to now enter this new realm?" At that point, without much thought or force, just wish a yes, and you go out there.

Hey there spellcaster,
I'm not sure that I can help but I know how you feel. The first time I did it, it only lasted a second and it was by an accident I wasn't even trying. I tried today and did pretty much the same thing you did except I fell asleep ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif) ) but just stick with it. I have trouble controlling the random thoughts that come into my head sometimes which i'm sure happens to everybody but you could try visualizing just one thing like a waterfall or boats sailing. It helps me relax more and think less about wanting to leave because if you keep saying I want to leave my body in your head it's not going to exactly work like that unfortuantly. Well I hope I helped some.

Good luck!