Can A Human's Energy Randomly Generate Life?, We can stop clocks cant we? Options

ok ok...so im not sure if this qualifies as a topic for psionics but here goes. Ive been wondering for a while now...if a person has enough energy, or excess energy...can that person, er...randomly generate smaller forms of life? Can a person unknowingly cause, say, bacteria or bugs or whatever to pop into existence?
The way i see it is...either it takes a HUGE amount of energy to generate life forms...or a very small sum. Then again...SUSTAINING life takes a lot MORE energy...if this were possible...can it be done deliberately?
just a thought that keeps nagging me.

It requires a massive amount of energy to only create an astral body of life. Let alone manifesting a physical form.

Theoretically I suppose it could be possible if you had a massive amount of energy. I know its possible to create thoughtforms without even knowing it. But a physical being with a spirit and auric bodies would probably still require some will power even at that level.

It can be done with magick but it requires invoking a deity and taking any measures you can to draw as much energy as possible an yet it still may not be enough. Who knows how hard it could be to manifest a physical being from energy alone?

OH heres an idea, theoretically, if you can create a strong enough astral body, and supply it with a "body" per se, you could create a physical being. I'll have to look into that.

But be careful when working with the creation of thought forms, astral beings and such. The longer they live the smarter they get, therefore attaining an individual will, meaning it could bite the hand that feeds in a sense. A regular Frankenstein story.

Please don't discredit me because of my age and post count. I've read numerous books and I have some sense.



~empirenocturne

oh enoc! dont be so silly. discredit you? nonsense. i am young myself, let me revise, then my first statement, and lay out new possibilities...well, when i posted this i wasnt thinking thouroughly enough to explain in further detail. It was a mistake to post the word "randomly". It implies there was no set up for the situation.
A virus floats around, neutral and in most aspects, it isnt even living yet. It cant make particular effort to ever be found, it cant reproduce itself unless it has another life force to feed off. It just sits. Is it possible that like the virus operates, so does most primitive forms waiting to be born into active existence? im not saying humans are the only possible energy source, either. Im not sure we really possess ENOUGH energy, just the right kind of energy. for instance, a human virus has to be picked up by a human. Call it chemistry. hehe. Anyway, size DOES count. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) When you say huge amounts of energy, does this mean for simply generating any kind of being...or one with a decent mass? I assume that when dealing with the astral, one would normally go for a size that is more accomodating. also, i didnt mean to imply the makings of whatever creature werent already set up, and not even technically in the astral, but perhaps in some other unseen dimension OF the physical. Im sure it takes more energy to fully create the creature in function and form, but i only cited bacteria (scratch bugs!) because these things already exist and have a purpose and perhaps even, because WE ourselves, came from such simple organisms...that we have the unconscious abitility to regenerate them. i dunno. Anyway, WE ALL know it takes the RIGHT CONDITIONS for life. well we have Earth, teeming with life. I dont mean to offend science here...but whats to say the BIG BANG doesnt happen frequently on the molecular level? Why should it only happen once so long ago, and ONLY once?
I should have been more careful with my explanations. Im afraid i come off as a dodo. thanks for replying enoc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif)

The simplest answer is no. That would imply that you could create something out of nothing. In other words, it implies that you would have the ability to create carbon atoms and molecular bonds out of no where. That can't happen, even by "practical" means. However, a person could rearrange carbon atoms to create the molecular bonds responsible for creating the cellular membrane and the nucleic acids responsible for a single cell, however, that would take precision not "energy". It would require a tremendous amount of skill in the area of micro psychokinetics and the ability to percieve what you are doing on such a small scale.

oh enoc! dont be so silly. discredit you? nonsense. i am young myself, let me revise, then my first statement, and lay out new possibilities...well, when i posted this i wasnt thinking thouroughly enough to explain in further detail. It was a mistake to post the word "randomly". It implies there was no set up for the situation.
A virus floats around, neutral and in most aspects, it isnt even living yet. It cant make particular effort to ever be found, it cant reproduce itself unless it has another life force to feed off. It just sits. Is it possible that like the virus operates, so does most primitive forms waiting to be born into active existence? im not saying humans are the only possible energy source, either. Im not sure we really possess ENOUGH energy, just the right kind of energy. for instance, a human virus has to be picked up by a human. Call it chemistry. hehe. Anyway, size DOES count. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) When you say huge amounts of energy, does this mean for simply generating any kind of being...or one with a decent mass? I assume that when dealing with the astral, one would normally go for a size that is more accomodating. also, i didnt mean to imply the makings of whatever creature werent already set up, and not even technically in the astral, but perhaps in some other unseen dimension OF the physical. Im sure it takes more energy to fully create the creature in function and form, but i only cited bacteria (scratch bugs!) because these things already exist and have a purpose and perhaps even, because WE ourselves, came from such simple organisms...that we have the unconscious abitility to regenerate them. i dunno. Anyway, WE ALL know it takes the RIGHT CONDITIONS for life. well we have Earth, teeming with life. I dont mean to offend science here...but whats to say the BIG BANG doesnt happen frequently on the molecular level? Why should it only happen once so long ago, and ONLY once?
I should have been more careful with my explanations. Im afraid i come off as a dodo. thanks for replying enoc. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif)

lol at my age i coul be a physics graduate, shamefully i chose to go to MIT so ill be going next year, they'll be counting some of my courses in this college (MIAMI _DADE), what you said its one theory,and no you are not offending science, you should do more research on particle physics and quantum mechanics.
look for the string theory also. Reality might be just an illusion, a proton might make time go forward and an electron might make time go back. Thoughtforms and stuff like that might be part of the cp violation. which is the cross of realities.
we will prove that or dispprove that at the LHC site in geneva. well i shouldnt say prove since we lack the precision to say that but at least we can say we may not see it in our current senses, even with our reception technology we lack the precision mother nature has.

This post has been edited by Uwe: Nov 17 2007, 06:54 PM

lol at my age i coul be a physics graduate, shamefully i chose to go to MIT so ill be going next year, they'll be counting some of my courses in this college (MIAMI _DADE), what you said its one theory,and no you are not offending science, you should do more research on particle physics and quantum mechanics.
look for the string theory also. Reality might be just an illusion, a proton might make time go forward and an electron might make time go back. Thoughtforms and stuff like that might be part of the cp violation. which is the cross of realities.
we will prove that or dispprove that at the LHC site in geneva. well i shouldnt say prove since we lack the precision to say that but at least we can say we may not see it in our current senses, even with our reception technology we lack the precision mother nature has.

For a physics graduate, that sure does not make any sense. You are putting cognitive psychology, the study of microscopic systems, and macroscopic systems into a walking blender along with adding "thoughtforms" for flavor. And a proton can not make time go forward or backwards. In the macroscopic world, things are irreversible. If they were, that would violate the quantum concept of the "arrow of time".

If you start out with a void, there are no particles to do anything, at all! The above mentioned would be the psychokinetic arrangement of molecules that I mentioned before.

I wont go into a long discussion over it. Ill just say that it is possible, though like you mentioned sustaining life that has no core is something that drains us. Wether it be creating an entity or a will.. or something beyond that with the combination of both body and mind. Without an independent core it constantly drains you if you wish to keep something in existence. Speaking theoreticaly of course(at least on the aspect of the phisical body which you create for whatever it may be) I guess if you teach it to hunt for what it needs, then it wont be a big problem. If we take it a step further, even bakteria needs something phisical to sustain it and not only the energetical side of things. Those are my thoughts in a nut shell. :S

This post has been edited by Shimi: Apr 1 2008, 02:58 AM