Servitor And Elemental, annoyed Options

Hi all,

A newbie post here... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif))
Well, I am about to create my first servitor, but I'm a little bit hesitating, for I'm not sure which method to begin with: chaos method or "ala Bardon" 's?
Further more, I've noticed there isn't much sites on the net explaining in a simple step-by-step method how to create a servitor. I've just read the Tzimzum stuff, an article by Marik and another by Fra Negenthrop. I know there is also a book "How to create magickal entities" by T. Ellwood, but unfortunately I can't buy it.
So...
Two questions:
1. What are the main differences between a chaotic servitor and a Bardon's elemental?
2. Could you please explain in a simple step-by-step method how YOU, are you creating your servitors?

With a lot of thanks in advance.

Hmmmm... Twenty something views and no one dares revealing his secret method of creating servitors? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif)
Well, let's put it this way. I understand that advanced magickians are somewhat tired of reading the same n00bies requests and questions. But, in this case, we are dealing with something that can make people "gone mad" if not well understood from the beginning. So, why not (and that's my suggestion) pin a thread which gathers all the stuff related to the topic.
IMO, many aspects remains in the dark. For example, I've read that bym is conducive to the Bardon's method in creating elementals. But Bardon never speaks about absorbing the elemental as do chaotes.
That just an example, and I am sure we can discuss several other question under the "servitor creation topic".
Can I hear now something from you guys? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/knuppel2.gif)

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lol I don't know how to answer your questions but figure I will try to help you in any way I can... Good Luck Hopefully someone will see this topic and answer it! Just Be Patient and vigilant!

That's all I can say and do for you...

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what are these methods ? chaotic servitor? Bardons elemental?
I have never Come across these
Can you explain these to us if you already have knowledge on these types of servitors?

"1. What are the main differences between a chaotic servitor and a Bardon's elemental?"


"2. Could you please explain in a simple step-by-step method how YOU, are you creating your servitors?"

right now i am just experimenting with their creation but first

i think about what i want it to do,
i also think about what i want it to not be able to do
like a program
then i draw on paper and imagine its form
i'll charge the image and see it astrally, asociate it with archetypal energies, like if i want protection i'll think of mars to ward off those that would try/ want to harm me through an agressive or at least percieved agressive nature.

draw up the energies and the emotional associations fell myself charged overflowing, with those energies
and just breathe life into it. know it exists and give it a name
tell it its purpose once again and how long it will live for .
give it a place to live, its "body its the paper image

and send it on its merry way.
if i ever want to contact it i mentally call it by name

and when i dismantled the first one i made i imaged it in 5 parts or aspects one aspect fire , the movement the sense of conciousness that it had returning to the element with no memory of the servitor.
i imagined water the intuitive and flowing part of the creature leaving its astral form, back to it's elemental pool

i also imagined the airy , intelligent and life leaving the form with air returning back to its natural pool of energy with no memoy of the creature
and i imagined the earth aspect of it the actual form leaving returing to the astrakl "stuff " that comprised it
and then finally i imagined its spirit the "white" aspect of my creation Returning to me,

i would say something formal like ":this name will no longer call you because you are no more" something along those lines for reinforcement,. and then i would burn the image created.

after that i ate some food and everytime i would think back to my former creation like i wanted to call it again i would reinforce to myself that the servitor ( name ) is no more, its "dead " doesnt exist

im sure that the steps used in my dismanteling of the servitor can also be used in the creation of it . just try to be creative .
im sure that the creation of these "tools" "friends " "artificial lifeforms" are just as varied as the way we practice. the way i'm "experimenting " with these things should not be a set way for you to create one. just go with your gut and try not to hurt anyone.ya know?
hope i helped but as i said im experimenting with these myself, and by the way i was sucessfull for the 7 hours i allowed it to live , so just try it.

um PS: if you think its not there or that you were unsucessfull, just reabsorb the energies any way never can be too carefull.
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"With a lot of thanks in advance."
yeah, im savoring this right now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) JK! try it out if it doesnt work try a new one kay bye

Servitor, is a simple creation of energy used to do a simple or repetitive task.

Example, focusing intellectually.

Steps:
1. figure out reasons for it.
2. give it focused intent
3. give it corespondance (planets, numerology, gods....as many concepts to work off of as possible)
4. give it a task (too assist me in focusing intently while I study for my chem. test)
5. give it time frame to do the task (the next 3 weeks)
6. Give it a name (sigil/sigil and name) in this case only a sigil
7. give it an astral form
8. create the sigil and forget about it
9. go out to eat
10. a few days later start studying for chem. test

There are other steps depending on if you want it tie it to an item, you probably want to do some banishing before step 2, but who cares it is your chem. Test not mine.

Not sure on anything else asked here. But that is what a servitor is and how to make one…making a sigil is not totally easy until you do it, by make it I mean charge it and the whole thing, that is where you the rubber meets the road, but if you can work sigils, you can work servitors…it is only one level up in complexity.

That is the lazy short answer, I hope that someone sees this and feels the need to answer more fully.

edit cause i forgot step three corespondance (need ot go to sleep)

This post has been edited by paxx: Oct 24 2007, 11:59 PM

Here is a simple method that I have come across in my research. I've seen this to work, so try it out for yourself.

1. Get some kind of stuffed animal that you like and keep it around with you alot (sleep with it, go places with it, just keep it around you as much as possible)

2. After about a week or more of having hte stuffed animal around with you stop having around with you as often., but still imagine that it is with you.

3. When you don't have it around you, imagine the tasks that you would like the servitor to do. (find a sex partner, make peopel give you money, give you points in your charisma stat, ect.)

4. Go send your imaginary stuffed animal to do stuff by talking to the physical form (focus)

You should now have a buddy to help you out with what ever tasks you may need. I learned this method from Odonata at occultforms, so I dont'w wanna take the credit for this method. But post up what your results are.