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post Jan 14 2008, 11:26 PM
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I have only found one reference to the sigils that appear on the pentacle of solomon. I'm aware of the general meaning for the names, but the only information I can find, state they are sigils of angels. I'm not entirely convinced, additionally I cannot find the names of the angels that these apparently belong to. Ideas anybody?

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post Jan 15 2008, 12:14 AM
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Although it was not applied until well after the Goetia was written, the top point sigil is the sign of the asteroid Ceres. I do not know if it was ever applied toward the goddess Ceres or where it came from... it may be a mere coincidence.

The central design looks, ironically, like a swastika.

The designs are all cramped into place, but each is different and balanced with its complementary shape. It is probable that they are names or that they represent some spiritual powers, but it is possible that they are only aesthetic additions. Whoever writes the grimoire decides what the sigils will be, and they may have simply decided to draw sigils in the pentacle. I suppose not, though, and I would love to hear what your research into the sigils produces.


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post Jan 15 2008, 12:29 PM
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Ggreetings!

I've seen this pentagram in a number of places... the most recent was referenced in "The Goetia of Dr. Rudd" on page 434. The passage cites its origin to be in Sibleys Goetia, Wellcome MS 3203 circa 1792.
Noodling around the internet through Google I came up with this:

http://www.angelfire.com/nt/dragon9/PENTAGRAM.html

It has a paragraph telling what the words mean...though this is unsubstantiated...at least for now.
I will continue to search...

"The words on the seal have the following meaning:
Abdia - I conjure thee in secret, O Spirit!
Ballaton - Come forth from thy abode and speak clearly in my speech.
Bellony - Put forth thy might and discover unto me the knowledge and power in thy keep.
Halliy - Answer in the inward silence all of my questions without fail.
Halliza - Assume and show forth unto me thy form of divine perfection.
Soluzen - Open unto me thy secret door and fulfill me of my purpose!"

This was taken from that website. I cannot verify its veracity!


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post Jan 17 2008, 11:36 AM
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After further investigation, some of the sigils appear very similiar to alchemical sigils. Its interesting that you note the centre sigil is similair to the swastika. Bock 1931, gives the swastika to represent death (current climate at the time given consideration), and the swirl on the right hand indicates arabic gum. (Francklyn 1627). I have no idea of the connection though, and I'm doudtful there is one. Though it has to be said the swastika predates symbols such as the Ankh.

The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. Its been used to represent the powers of the sun and possibly rebirth. There are records that show this symbol was even used by druids. Arabic gum, (also known as Acacia senegal), has associations also with the sun, Mars and the elemant air. Confusing.

The sigil next to abdia, also shows similiarities to the alchemical sigil for gold litharge. (Gessman 1906), but bears a distorted relation to the sign of saturn.

The sigil next to bellony is close to the sigil of hasmodai. Heydon 1664, Aggrippa 1531. Heydon states that hasmodai is a geomantic spirit ruler of Via and Populus. Though Aggrippa mentions its the ruling spirit of the moon.

Its possible that the sigils have undergone some distortion over time, through the different codices. Unable to upload comparisons unfortunately. Though I believe this is far from satisfying, as there is just a passing resemblence with only a couple of the sigils.


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post Jan 17 2008, 12:45 PM
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Though the main references are Dictionary of Occult, hermetic and alchemical sigils, By Fred Gettings. the books of Aggrippa, and dictionary of symbols J E Cirlot. If anybody is interested or are as anal has me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jan 17 2008, 02:06 PM
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Imperial Arts, can I enquire what reference/source you used for the identification of ceres asteroid?

1. Abdia: ("servant") - the name of an angel that appears on the external circle of the pentagram of Solomon.

1. BALLATON-An angel whose name is used by sorcerers when drawing the potent pentagram of Solomon, a symbol used for summoning spirits and conducting esoteric rites.

2. Ballaton An angel appearing on the external circle the pentagram of Solomon.

3. Ballaton: guardian invoked in Solomonic magick

4. Bellony/Bellonoy: compare with Ababaloy: an angel invoked in Solomonic incantation operations.

1. Halliza: the name of the angel appearing on the external circle of the pentagram of Solomon.

1. Hally: Old english for "oneness". Gaelic for "wise one". This name is also linked to four patron saints, Brendon, Michael, Cuthbert and the virgin Mary.

1. Soluezn :Soluzen is the name of an Angel and on the sigil has the meaning “open unto me thy secret door and fulfill me of my purpose”. Being in the center of the sigil may have a grounding affect.

symbols represent each Angel and their Planet association possibly.

The above are taken from different references/sources.

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post Jan 17 2008, 10:40 PM
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Some of the sigils look suspiciously similiar to letters on the alphabet of the magi, which was created by paracelsus 1493-1541. This would also fit with the alchemical theory possibly, as Paracelsus regarded himself more of an alchemist than magician.

Compare the sigils abdia and ballaton to the letters B and A meaning "will" (value 2) and"knowledge" (value 1) respectively.

And the sigil for bellony isn't dissimilair to the letter X (value 60), meaning "fate"

Sigil for Hally is close to the letter Th (value 9) meaning "prudence"

Additionally letter T (value 400) seems to have the same component parts as the sigil for Halliza. T means "reward"

Also the sigil for soluzen has a close resemblance to the letter H (value 8) meaning "equilibrium".

Therefore in order would read: Knowledge, Will, Fate, Prudence, Reward and Equilibrium.

When the respective value of the letters are added they equal 480. 4+8=12. 1+2= 3. The significance of this number I won't even bother to go in to. Although there's evidence to suggest that talismans were frequently written on with this alphabet. Ref:Encyclopedia of Occultism and Parapsychology Part 2.
Its conceivable to think that there may be distortions from the original alphabet and/or corruption in the rendering of the sigils since their inception. Compare the pentacle from MSS 3825 with the pentacle in the Crowley/Mathers version of the goetia. Admittedly much of the MS codices were very difficult to read, being handwritten, with quill and ink, on poor qualtiy parchment, and the words cramped together to save space as parchment was expensive, etc.

It also should be stated that some of the sigils on the pentacle bear some resemblence to seals and characters of the seven planets. Trithemius' Steganographia, Book 2, which has similiarities with Theurgia Goetia in itself. Though not as profoundly as the alphabet.

At present I'm doubtful if the names and neighbouring sigils have any connection other than their placement next to each other in the pentacle.


Understandably I'm aware that this is just a theory, and would welcome any comments.

Loki

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post Jan 18 2008, 09:49 AM
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Imperial Arts, can I enquire what reference/source you used for the identification of ceres asteroid?

I don't know, it's the usual smbol for Ceres. It has been that since the late 1800's, but I don't know why they used that particular symbol.


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post Jan 18 2008, 12:40 PM
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I am aware ceres was discovered in 1801. and aware that the symbol used was the broken sign of venus, an upturned sickle so to speak. However I feel any relation either to the symbol ceres or the goddess is purely coincidental The sigil for the word abdia being used on the pentacle can be traced from 1657 (Ms 3825) translation by Robert Turner, and presumably earlier.

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