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post Nov 16 2007, 09:49 AM
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hi

I just been reading how some of you been changing the trafic lights? hahaha!
I mean I am a normal person so you must forgive my ignorance even though I totaly live in the real world I so do believe in real magick but you guys using magick for traffic light dancing hahaha you kidding me right? it just sounds to cute haha it makes my cockels tingle just at the thought of being able to do something so cool as that, but without causing any smashups along the way haha! wow that's a point, are'nt you guys kinda breaking a few rules here with stuff like that, I mean.... well ok ... not my buisiness but wow awesome stuff!!


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post Nov 16 2007, 01:46 PM
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Hi. try doing some spells and you will know how magick works.

changin the traffic light is not as in the movie where you just think of it and voila.

it asks great deal of emotion and focus and will to cause time independent reaction of the real world to what is being programmed in the astral/ mind.

doing this will cause 'coincidences' but with some probablility checks you will notice that success is more frequent than failure on practice.

well the key is here is to be in a high emotional state at the same time trance like to be able to cause such an impact.

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post Nov 16 2007, 06:26 PM
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Sometimes when I really need to be somewhere the magick is unintention and what happens is I end up having a string of green lights. And I mean like a dozen or more, not just 2 or 3. Other times when I am bored, don't really have anywhere to be I end up hitting a lot of red ones. But I have never found enough to make me believe I could just control traffic lights.


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post Nov 16 2007, 09:09 PM
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P.E.A.R. has done research on how human consciousness affects machines. Though it's not exactly light reading.
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/publications.html
Then there's the RetroPsychoKinesis project ( http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/ ) looking at the effect of intent on probability.
And I think modern traffic lights have a sensor that ambulances trip when they enter an intersection, so there's a chance of subconsciously doing something that could affect that as well.

Really, though, I'd have to say there are infinite ways to do anything. The above doesn't even scratch the surface. I'm sure there's a few people with servitors who follow them around changing traffic lights, or maybe they summoned a demon who...
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post Nov 17 2007, 02:09 AM
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QUOTE(SeekerVI @ Nov 16 2007, 10:09 PM) *
Then there's the RetroPsychoKinesis project ( http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/[/url] ) looking at the effect of intent on probability.
And I think modern traffic lights have a sensor that ambulances trip when they enter an intersection, so there's a chance of subconsciously doing something that could affect that as well... I'm sure there's a few people with servitors who follow them around changing traffic lights...



There is an interesting essay about changing street lights with servitors, I will post it when I find it. I have had some success with RetroPsychoKinesis myself but from what I have read it tends to be less magick and more an adjunct to a person.

In ether case (servitors/ RetroPsychoKinesis) does anyone know what the actual mechanics of it are? Nothing I heard so far is satisfactory.


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post Nov 17 2007, 04:55 AM
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QUOTE(SeekerVI @ Nov 16 2007, 10:09 PM) *
P.E.A.R. has done research on how human consciousness affects machines. Though it's not exactly light reading.
http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/publications.html
Then there's the RetroPsychoKinesis project ( http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/ ) looking at the effect of intent on probability.
And I think modern traffic lights have a sensor that ambulances trip when they enter an intersection, so there's a chance of subconsciously doing something that could affect that as well.


Hey Seeker; smiles

that looks extremely interesting that : RetroPsychoKinesis project , I put it in my faves haha , but I will need to steal time from somewhere to have time omg! time is something I just can't keep up with .. anyone got a little viby on how I can bend time to my favour so I can have time to to read and learn stuff?? haha! a spell for time yeh!
information wow, the net has it all , but I can't absorb haha always get information overload that blows my fuse haha!
There is something about those traffic light posts I read that make my mind flip hahah , there has to, not that I have ever doubted it , but there has to be gateways, pathways, to places that are gushing like fountains of unknown and untouched secrets to openning what for me anyway will more than likely remain locked away hahah! i just don't know how to channel my energy hahah , I just wrote a post on how I cannot concentrate hahah I am bloody useless but little by little I might just get my act together .... haha!

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post Nov 17 2007, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(fatherjhon @ Nov 17 2007, 12:09 AM) *
In ether case (servitors/ RetroPsychoKinesis) does anyone know what the actual mechanics of it are?
Microchips are extremely easy to damage, they're so small the tiniest speck of dust can be a problem, clean rooms are neccessary to prevent that and static; and while hardening and insulation can protect from some electrical damage, there's also EMP. If you've seen the recent Ocean's 11, you've seen the effects of an EMP burst (from the thing they stole to knock out the casino's power). Some scientists predict a nuclear blast (of a specialized EMP nuke) over the USA would knock out almost all electronics coast-to-coast. This one reason the military uses vacuum tubes for all their critical systems.
A good overview of EMP.
Make your own!

My pet hypothesis at the moment is the massive spread of microelectronics. Places using a lowest-bid system won't have quality first and foremost, the millions of street-lights & control systems across the world are not state of the art. Some are bound to be affected by outside interference, and in some cases they must be built to do so (FCC rules, part 15). Seeing as every living creature on the planet has electromagnetic activity of some kind, I find it highly plausible that there are ways we can utilize our own electric field in varying degrees. Maybe not as much as an electric eel, but probably more than cell phone & electric companies would like. In any case there's definitely a potential for cause-and-effect, but I'm far from knowing how exactly.


As for PK experiments, they've found a wide range of things that can be affected: dice, machines, radioactive decay, you name it. Servitors... it probably depends on the servitor, how well it was made, who made it, etc. etc.


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post Nov 18 2007, 06:22 AM
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When it comes to affecting dice…I have lots of adult experience (table top gaming from age 21-28). In the end my magickal experience and testing ended with this…roughly…I had it documented and after I told my friends about it I was given electronic (palm pilot) dice only while gaming.

This is how it worked best.

Sigil, created for improving dice rolls only (different games require different rolls or different dice).

If I did not care at all about the roll, results where always good (I would blank out my mind or think about something else). Backlash would only occur if I was emotionally invested, then all rolls would be bad.

On one particular session…I had the anchor on me, and did not know. I rolled 15 6s out of 15 dice. I rerolled the dice 13 6s a 5 and a 4, I rolled those 13 again, 7 6s…I continued doing this just to see how far it would go. If it came up 6 it was rerolled if not the dice was taken out of the pile. It took 22 rolls to not have anymore 6s. We calculated the probability of one die individually and had a guesstamate of the chances of that many sixs in an open roll environment.

In essence if just one die getting the same result 22 times is 1/85138056036797700.00
Chance.

There where eight witnesses.

Ultimately it was at least a bigger number then the chance of hitting the powerball lottery jackpot twice in a row with the same numbers…I did play that following day and out of $20 won $6.

Three weeks later we tried the same thing but as a controlled experiment. I admit I was more emotionally involved and I knew I had the anchor on me. This time it took 12,15,20 and other rolls. Actually, I think that was all we did that night, me getting the best results on average it took 13~14 rolls, and since it was 15 dice we thought that might be average…but later in calculating it in excel, it was not by a long shot.

I am surprised I never made a sigil or servitor for the powerball…I need to think about that, honestly it never occurred more then a totally passing thought until now.

Later experiments where more focused and different sigil concepts. None worked as well. In my opinion because of attachment to results at time of the trial. But it could have been those sigils where not as well made.

I was able to roll a one with one die 12 times in a row with purpose. 0.00000000583% or
1/1716378016.66
chance of it happening. I was stopped at that point because it was a detrimental effect to the game.

I did try it once in Vegas…worked a bit better then chance, but I get emotionally involved with betting. So no real confirmable result other then that was the only time (out of 4) that I had more money coming home then going to Vegas including all other entertainment and trip expenses. Usually I set to loose $800 on betting plus everything else and that is a good 3 days.

That anchor is in a box somewhere…perhaps I should find him and see.

I will contact some friends, and look around if we can get the notes on the experiments…I know I have them in a notebook, but my buddies transferred them to computer…it was 2 moves ago, and 7+ years however. And we where not paying too much attention the first and most dramatic time, but it was noted cause we where chance geeks at the time.


However getting back on topic.

Moral rules and changing streetlights. Miniscule at best, but for those with moral issues with it, should not do it. Morals on my dice rolling…pretty low, but everyone knew about it. They just did not take it seriously until that night.

The key was emotional and thought blankness. I think it was that experiment that let me know when I am in the zone with that. Also the concept of a sigil and anchor is not totally normal in chaos circles, it is usually reserved for servitors.

That might be a good exercise for learning…using a chance system and figuring out when and why it works…the feelings and emotions involved.

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hey all - the next time you are stuck at a stop light (and first in line), try thinking hard for the light to change to go, link the thought into your life energy so that your whole existence is vibrating with it, then let the brakes off for a split second and put that energy into it as well, once, twice, thrice - if you do it right, on the thrice time of adding the braking energy to the command, the light will indeed change early - be sure to let it go and stop vibrating it once the light changes - also watch out for ego grandiisement (the belly rub phenomenon / big head) cause you were able to do it, just force yourself to think that in the real world, everyone can do it, and you have just done it too, so be proud but don't go all vain and cocky about it or you'll lose the innocent ability

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it just sounds to cute haha it makes my cockels tingle just at the thought of being able to do something so cool as that, but without causing any smashups along the way haha!


I don't appreciate the patronizing tone. Please understand that this is a community of scholars and students. Try to keep this in mind when you interact with us as a simple form of respect to this magickal community.

Then again, I could be just be uptight over it. It seemed like patronizing to me.


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post Dec 14 2007, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Xenomancer @ Nov 18 2007, 04:11 PM) *
I don't appreciate the patronizing tone. Please understand that this is a community of scholars and students. Try to keep this in mind when you interact with us as a simple form of respect to this magickal community.

Then again, I could be just be uptight over it. It seemed like patronizing to me.


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definitley patronizing

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I am replying as an update: I have contacted my friends and we have no idea where to look for the digital notes. Some of the written notes I supposedly have, but I need to go through boxes and read through many notebooks to find it, not worth to do yet for this posting...

changing subjects, and going off topic…might lock this one down later.

@ Almost Easy and Gift 22, one liners are something we the Mods generally frown upon. Normally I just delete them, but I am lazy today. Treat this as a warning for future times, no matter how funny you might thing the remark you are making is, if it does not add to the discussion and it is not in one of the areas reserved for idle chit chat, it is not welcome.

Almost Easy, that is bordering on insulting…not totally, more bordering and just inside the grey area. Please refrain from doing so except in designated areas, no matter how big a target someone makes themselves.

Lastly…

@Xenomancer

You know better, you could have made your comment and then added to the conversation at least.

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