Summoning Of Planetary Demons Options

I know approximately the procedure for planetary summoning,but did anyone in here attempted summoning of Zazel,Bartzabel,Kedemel or any other planetary demon?
What were your methods and results? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I'll admit I haven't. But why summon the planetary demons when you could summon the planetary intelligences instead? Just a thought.

I'll admit I haven't. But why summon the planetary demons when you could summon the planetary intelligences instead? Just a thought.

I dont know how planetary intelligences would respond to certain demands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)

It would be the first suggestion that you at least make your initial progress through the planetary Intellegence. Then proceed (if you still feel it necassary) to bring the Planetary Spirit into your work.

Just to set my mind right.....

It'd be my suggestion that you think of those planetary dynamics as a duo, or a cooperative.
The planetary system seems (to me) more of a directing thought (the intellence) and a concerted force (the spirit).
If you anticipate the spirit as a "demon" you may find that the whole duo is more difficult then as a combination.
Thier relationship can be important part of your work . . . "ask" the intellegence, its the best source for developing this type of work.

This post has been edited by palindroem: Feb 22 2008, 03:36 PM

I agree with palindroem. Work through the intelligence first, they are helpful, although sometimes severe in the case of the outer planets, with the exception of jupiter - whose intelligences always seem jovial to me. But, regardless of their manifestation they are informative and will help you to better understand how and why to work with planetary entities at all.

I also suggest working with the intelligence of the moon first, she is extremely amiable and if you ask her she will tell you how to get the spirit of the moon to assist you with the other planets. In my experience aside from their own practical influence over the earth, the spirits of the moon are a bit like guardians, or at least guides, between the inner and outer planets from earth - venus and mercury typically don't need any sort of introduction and they are generally amiable when dealing with a respectful and conscientious magician. The outer planetaries are harsher for a newcomer to the art.

peace

Thanks for the advices (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They are noted.

Is an "intelligence" another term for egregore? I find those to be less trustworthy than I would the entity itself.

No, an egregore is a thoughtform willfully constructed for a particular purpose, or to embody a particular idealology, by a group of magicians intent on working in concert towards some end, either specific or abstract.

An intelligence is the personification of the function of a particular archetypal entity. Like Intelligence, it is an ephemeral being wholly concerned with the 'blueprints' as it were, for the function itself. Just as man is composed of a mind, body, and spirit, so are the spheres and all things in creation composed of the organic, psychic, and spiritual parts, and those parts in turn are composed of microcosmic version of the mind, body, and spirit. These correspond to the three phases of the four elements as described in agrippa's three books; The Spirit as elemental fire, the Mind as elemental Air, and the Body as elemental water - the composite result being elemental earth.

All entities are trustworthy when properly approached and/or constrained depending on the variety of entity in question, except those that are willful manifestations of a human psyche.

peace

Is an "intelligence" another term for egregore? I find those to be less trustworthy than I would the entity itself.

Egregor is part of a larger catagory of entities called constructs. Egregores, servitors, thought froms, fetches (fetishes), poppets and so on are entities that a magician makes, as in builds or constructs. While each one has a specific relationship to the magician and relative existance may vary, they are essentially created beings, rather than naturally occuring beings like elementals.

Thanks for the advices (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They are noted.

Just another thought in reference to what had been referred to as planetary "Intelligences" vs. planetary Spirits. You invoke the Higher Intelligences, in order to bind the Spirits. The negative spectrum is brought under control by the positive spectrum and thereby utilized by the middle "ground" (The Operator in Malkuth having been united with his Divinity within) to carry out their specified function, according to the will of The Operator. Just a thought.