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Imoe
post Nov 30 2007, 10:31 AM
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Hello everyone!

We have a cat at home. So I was wondering, do cats, dogs or any other pet get affected by for example 'black' magic. I know that dogs are able to see jinns. Sometimes our cat is looking or stairing at something, but there is nothing to see. Or sometimes our cat is just stairing at me, he doesn't stair at my wife.

There is a story I want to share with you. My aunty and unlce were fighting for no reason. They hated eachother, and my aunt wanted to divorse my uncle. They had a cat. There was a plant at their home and their cat often went to the plant and start digging or sometimes he pushed it on the ground. My aunty and unlce thought this was innocent, cats do that often. So because of their fighting and because of my aunt left her home, my unlce asked help from his aunt. She is very old, many years ago she visited a muslim holy place in India and gained some spiritual power. She came and immediatly told my unlce to look at the specific plant, the same plant where their cat was always digging and so on. So my unlce did, and found a talisman burried. Someone burried a talisman in one of there plants to seperate my unle and aunty.

So I think pets have some sensibilty or they feel something what ordinary humans don't feel.

What's is your opinion? And has anyone more information about this subject?

Great!

God Bless!

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post Nov 30 2007, 11:55 AM
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This seems to tie in with my current line of thinking. “Pets” in general very much feel themselves as guardians over their family. Some pets are more sensitive and intelligent then others, some pets can care less about their household as long as they are entertained…so it is not consistent any more then people are.

That said, pets often pick up on subtle energy better then we humans do, sometimes it is just the cat day dreaming…sometimes it is not. However since in general pets have far less worries then a standard animal or humans, they are able to feel things that are not truly part of their family or home.

A sensitive person would also feel the same thing (as noted in your story). But we humans are often more distracted then out pets.

So at worst pets are another pair of eyes and ears on all levels, at best they are guardians of the family and reminders of how to live.

On the flip side (more common with dogs) pets can be a truly disruptive force. So think of pets as you would people, each with different tendencies.


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post Nov 30 2007, 04:50 PM
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On the flip side (more common with dogs) pets can be a truly disruptive force. So think of pets as you would people, each with different tendencies.


Like allergies or pooping in the house! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I think pets have their own personalities. Some like their owners and some don't. If a pet likes its owners it will serve as part of the "pact" - or the family as a whole. And I do agree that animals are able to pick up on more subtle energies than people. Pets can also be enchanted to serve more specific purposes like guides or wards. I consider most pets to be like a "companion" to the magician. Unlike familiars or spirit guides they can be more like friends, or even siblings. As companions they share with the magician eachothers spiritual energies.

On the other hand if a pet does not like its owners it can work against them (like pooping in the house!) But also on a magickal level and can cause distress in the family, sickness and even cause members to seperate.


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post Dec 28 2007, 06:38 AM
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my answer to this would be a resounding yes. Some animals are more highly attuned to the magical energies than others, and I would say all animals are more in tune with natural magic than we are. In my 40 years of studying the various forms of the magical arts I have always, in one way or another, had a "familiar" usually who chose me. A few have been hereditary, that is,the offspring of a previous overseer of my arts. I believe the ability in each creature varies, as it does for us I challange anyone to convince Freya, my current manx cat companion, that the altar is not her domain, and that I can do spell work without her immediate suppervision. When doing candle magic, she will stare at the candle till the working is complete, experience has taught me that if she washes herself after the working, there was some type of interferance, or something wasn't quite right, and usually the spell will not manifest. if she lays down by the altar, and goes to sleep, all is as it should be. I think more people would notice things like this if they used their powers of observation. I also know animals can benifit from magic worked on their nehalf. I have one example of that living on my property. I try to do as much equine rescue work as I can afford to feed. My arabian came to me at deaths door, starved, and critically ill with numerous infections. The vet said there was no way he was going to make it, and wanted me to put him down. I looked in those eyes, and it was like he was saying "give me a chance". So, after the vet left, some friends and I put this poor animal in the middle of a circle, and asked for all the healing help the Lady Epona could give. That horse gave a huge quiver all over his body, and started on the road to recovery. yes, it took good food, and lots of it, herbal, and pharmacutical medicine, but he went from no chance,to healthy. The vet said it was a miracle, said there was no way he should have lived. This isn't the only time I have used magic to assist an animal. it does work, and is proof that it isn't by "power of suggestion", as animals are not "suggestable" subjects So, use your powers of observation, and realize we are not the only gifted creatures in this universe, others can use, and benifit from magic as well

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post Dec 28 2007, 04:07 PM
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I would answer yes, too. My take on it is that animals don't necessarily have an inherently greater sensetivity to the metaphysical than we do--they simply don't get socialized out of their perceptions.

I've carried an interest in psychic phenomena for years, as well as spoken with people who know someone else who is clairvoyant, and a recurring theme is that we all have psychic potential and it is active when we are children. I can't count the number of times I have read that children's "imaginary friends" are often not so imaginary. When I was young, my family moved several times and if you asked me, every one of the houses we lived in was haunted--including two which were new when we moved in. I could always feel presences, usually at night when my physical senses weren't quite so stimulated by noise, light, etc. We get those perceptions trained out of us for the most part, by adults who tell us there are no such things as ghosts, supplying us with "rational" explanations, teaching us about the "real" world. We start to tune it out.

But who tells their cat, "Silly cat, there's no such thing as _____"? We don't socialize our pets into a materialistic worldview, and if we tried, we probably wouldn't get far anyhow. Their perceptions are left intact to develop naturally. In my opinion, that's the essential difference between us and animals. Now, cats can see better in the dark than we can, and elephants learn more about their environments through their amazing sense of smell than we do with our sense of sight; I imagine this may stretch into psychic senses as well. But I think the bottom line is that animals are left to develop naturally.

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post Feb 15 2008, 03:43 AM
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If you want a spell in order to protect you're pets PM me
Honestly as if you didn't know that farmers started agro wars trought cursing their neighbour's cows and sheeps
This also works with a dog or any pet. In fact it's a easier attack them because you're more attached to them then to you're grand father's cows... And even if cats are tiny magicians they are easier to attack then a human

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