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 Artistic Sigil Creation?, Is It Okay for me to do this
The_story
post Feb 8 2008, 11:11 AM
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I normally create my own sigils and charge them myself but recently i've been allowing my friend ( who is an excellent artist) to draw them for me, i've noticed that by looking at them i find myself going into a trance alot easier, but i've also know that its best that you do your own sigils. Should i allow him to continue, or should i take over the complete creation of my sigils again?

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post Feb 8 2008, 07:32 PM
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Why not have them teach you a think or two? Or direct you to resources that helped them learn?
There's more art stuff out there than you can shake a stick at, it helps to have someone (who's skill you appreciate) that can navigate the field.

http://www.dmoz.org/Arts/Visual_Arts/Educa...ne_Instruction/

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post Feb 15 2008, 04:09 PM
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Do what you feel comfortable with-in the end it can only be your own choice that will make or break.


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post Feb 29 2008, 09:34 AM
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Yes, I do feel comfortabe i guess i just have a problem breaking tradition, but i really can't draw or even sketch, so i've decided to work with acoustic sigils instead, since music is my gift

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post Feb 29 2008, 12:57 PM
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Just practice, even if you can't draw a straight line down a small piece of paper your skill will improve over time if you keep at it, and sigil drawing is simple with basic energies and even more complicated ones can be drawn simply or messy, since once you have the basic idea down you can hold the 'perfected' version in your mind and draw it with energy. Later, if its a keeper you can use a paint program on a computer to create a much more neat and clean sigil.

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post Nov 12 2009, 10:33 AM
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I know this is an old topic, but I add this for anyone who might stumble across it.

With chaos magic, in my experience, the question 'Can I do this?' almost always has the answer 'why not?'

As for what you're talking about, it's actually one of the techniques that was used on me(and now used by me) whenever I was first getting 'initiated' into magic. One of the big problems people have is overcoming the 'Magic Isn't Real' barrier. And it is a hard one to overcome. But they're already interested and probably want to believe, so they make a sigil, but lust of result gets in the way.

Whenever someone else(a trusted someone else) designs the sigil based off the other person's intent, it helps distract the initiate magician from the original intent, weakening lust of result and allowing them to concentrate on the sigil itself. In this way the magic works faster/better and helps to show the initiate magician that Magic Works!

Also, sometimes me and the (few)occult friends I've had will design each others' sigils just as a gift, or a way to stir things up.

However, if you feel confident that you can sigilize your intent via music, then you should definitely go for it. Nothing is True. Everything is Permitted.


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post Nov 12 2009, 10:53 AM
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A fantastic version of sort of 'sigil trading' as it were, is done by two more more individuals exchanges short lists of intentions they would like to sigillize. At least three seems to work best, no more than five is probably appropriately 'safe' as these intentions must not interfere directly with one another.

Each party echanges a list so that any or all involved, of course, don't have their own. Then each part retreats and sigilizes the intentions on their list, assorts them in no particular order, and then each returns to give back the lists along with the sigils.

In this way no one know which sigil is which, but knows that each one represents an intention of some kind that they wanted to embed in the first place. Individuals charge their own sigils after they are constructed by someone else, and now the 'forgetting' part takes care of itself.



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