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post May 9 2008, 08:25 PM
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Hi.

So.. Does anyone think that is it possible a travel back in time, or change the past?

Not, why? Yes. why?

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post May 23 2008, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(Asguard @ May 9 2008, 09:25 PM) *
Hi.

So.. Does anyone think that is it possible a travel back in time, or change the past?

Not, why? Yes. why?

Bye all.!



Anyone?

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post May 23 2008, 08:06 PM
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Time Travel is one of my biggest pet peeves. I just don't think Time Travel is possible at the macro-scale, within the same time-line!

Maybe virtual particles and sub-atomic particles do it in order to satisfy quantum level laws but beings with *consciousness* ... I just don't think so.

Now speaking of 'quantum laws', ironically the only way I can see it being possible and still preserving the consistency of linear time we *experience* is if you subscribe to the Many-Worlds hypothesis of explaining the double-slit particle/wave duality phenomena.

Basically if you were to manage to 'travel' to another time, you would essentially be traveling to an alternate dimension and time-line where you created/invaded that time-line by injecting yourself there. But you would be, for all intents and purposes, in a completely different Universe with a unique past and a unique future alien and distinct from the one you left behind.

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post May 24 2008, 04:44 PM
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Greetings!
I would think that time travel to the future is where you get bogged down. Too many variables. Whereas going backwards within one probability thread should, in theory, work...? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post May 24 2008, 10:41 PM
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In an astral travel, etheric travel you can travel back in time (in astral travel we have the akashic records)

So.. It could be possible modify the past in those plains (astral or etheric)?

Not creat or go to a new timeline, but modify you own past..?

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post May 25 2008, 02:28 AM
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Greetings!
I'm not to well versed in this temporal theory but...
You may be able to visit /view the past but if you tamper with it you would get pulled into the probability threads created by the new stimulus. You would have a similar vast amount of probabilities springing forth from you 'breaking the circle of time'. It's all these probabilities that lead us to the concept of a multiverse. The Akashic Records, IMHO, are outside the 'Wheel of Time'...and you can't alter those...ever...even if you wanted to. (Read a short story by Ray Bradbury called, "A Sound Like Thunder" It's in one of his many anthologies...???Golden Apples of the Sun/Silver Apples of the Moon" or somesuch! Sorry, its 4AM and I'm beat!) They created a Twilight Zone mini movie about this story....Good Stuff!

I've played around with probability manipulation and 'hopping' across the p-lines...and will expand on this in another thread.


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post May 25 2008, 11:34 AM
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yep, there have been many theories, but nobody knows for sure, not that's talking anyway (that i have heard, or even heard of)

i've been sideways across time, and from place to place via the holes in the fabric of space-time, but never back or forward through time, and not for lack of trying

i wonder if we've been 'limited' or something, or we just haven't hit how time actually works yet - i think it runs slower the higher up toward source you are?

the closer we get to 2012 the more whacked time is getting, and supposedly when we pass the 'time-wall' at 2012 it gets really whacked - i've given up on calendars and days of the week and go now by the visible stars and the phase of the moon and sometimes even that appears to fluctuate and change - memory is a phantom thing to measure with

i'd like to try playing with time, but how would you do it? - the effects will be very tiny (everybody expects brass bands lol, but it is seldom like that) - need something to measure it against too, which is the real difficulty i guess

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post May 26 2008, 01:00 AM
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Well.. As I said, it could exist a way: When you project you consciousness
through the higher worlds (astral, mental or etheric worlds), you can go back into the past and see the past. Now, once you project you consciousness
through those worls, theres no limits. Youi can teleport anyway in the universe, make rituals and more.

So, you can go to past and change your past with you consciousness on those worls, because you dont have limits there

I hope you understood what I said (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)

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post May 26 2008, 07:33 AM
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yeah, i get what you are saying - but a projecting consciousness doesn't really alter only the past, you are altering your consciousness with the result of changing the past, therefore you are altering yourself - same thing as we were saying before, changing the past changes you, or changes which timeline you are in, to put it another way - you are still in all the timelines that contain you, but your awareness moves to a different timeline because that is the you that is what you are now that you changed the past - that is how you move across timelines, btw, by changing the you that is you to something else, something that you define and intentionally create to happen, then poof you are in a different timeline)

QUOTE(Asguard @ May 26 2008, 02:00 AM) *
Well.. As I said, it could exist a way: When you project you consciousness
through the higher worlds (astral, mental or etheric worlds), you can go back into the past and see the past. Now, once you project you consciousness
through those worls, theres no limits. Youi can teleport anyway in the universe, make rituals and more.

So, you can go to past and change your past with you consciousness on those worls, because you dont have limits there

I hope you understood what I said (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)


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post May 28 2008, 12:11 AM
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Well.. when you change the past with you consciousness automatically you're changing some parts of you personality, you life and a lot of things else. As you said, you change all you timeline and you reality too. You change a lot of factors in your life when you change the past, etc..

But, with that answer do you think that is possible to change the past, or am I wrong with that conclusion?

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post May 28 2008, 07:34 AM
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like i said, if you did go back and 'change the past' then you would just go into a different timeline - the past didn''t actually change in the old timeline, you just changed to another timeline - say i find a time machine and go back into the far past and castrate my father or something, therefor i could not have been born by him, so when i did it i just moved my timeline to where i was born by somebody else - he would still be alive and my daddy in the old timeline - the problem is that when i wake up in the new timeline, my memories are from that timeline and not from the old one - i might have an odd feeling of something not being the same, but i wouldn't have awareness of the change that much - it happens all the time imo, we switch timelines when something happens (not even local), you get that odd feeling and then it usually fades away as things sync back up - somewhere, sometime IWHBYD


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post Jun 14 2008, 01:18 AM
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Working with akasa, the mage can change the destiny, the past, present and future - Franz Bardon

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post Dec 13 2008, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(esoterica @ May 28 2008, 08:34 AM) *

like i said, if you did go back and 'change the past' then you would just go into a different timeline - the past didn''t actually change in the old timeline, you just changed to another timeline - say i find a time machine and go back into the far past and castrate my father or something, therefor i could not have been born by him, so when i did it i just moved my timeline to where i was born by somebody else - he would still be alive and my daddy in the old timeline - the problem is that when i wake up in the new timeline, my memories are from that timeline and not from the old one - i might have an odd feeling of something not being the same, but i wouldn't have awareness of the change that much - it happens all the time imo, we switch timelines when something happens (not even local), you get that odd feeling and then it usually fades away as things sync back up - somewhere, sometime IWHBYD


What about to go to a different timeline and then go back to the first timeline ¿would be possible?

At least now I understand that is possible to go into a different timeline with the astral plane.

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