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asimon2008
post Jul 12 2008, 09:38 PM
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All through history there's been things talking about how Lilith, our ancestor Adam's first wife was demonized because she did not want to be under Adam than being on top. She was considered good one day and evil the next. She makes boy during puberty have wet dreams. So far I heard other stuff that the reason why she has sex with younger boys is to bring them in to the heavens. And maybe that's my problem on the other topic. But the real question is: Since I'm a Catholic I've been taught that her and Lucifer are the most sinister beings on the planet to humans. I want to know is are the set to destory me, you and the rest of the planet or again as usual someone is lying to us. Are demons evil and subject to destroy are not? Because for someone reason everything I've been taught as a kid is fool of shit ass lies. Sorry for vulgar. but it seems that I have to reteach my brain how to destory lies and to accept the real truth.

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post Jul 12 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(asimon2008 @ Jul 12 2008, 11:38 PM) *
All through history there's been things talking about how Lilith, our ancestor Adam's first wife was demonized because she did not want to be under Adam than being on top. She was considered good one day and evil the next. She makes boy during puberty have wet dreams. So far I heard other stuff that the reason why she has sex with younger boys is to bring them in to the heavens. And maybe that's my problem on the other topic. But the real question is: Since I'm a Catholic I've been taught that her and Lucifer are the most sinister beings on the planet to humans. I want to know is are the set to destory me, you and the rest of the planet or again as usual someone is lying to us. Are demons evil and subject to destroy are not? Because for someone reason everything I've been taught as a kid is fool of shit ass lies. Sorry for vulgar. but it seems that I have to reteach my brain how to destory lies and to accept the real truth.

well just look at it this way, there is no shadow without light, but there is no light without darkness, so demons and angels are evil depending on the use yopu are giving to it or the culture you are into, but there its not really such thing as good angels, or evil demons...also many of the so called evil demons are actually ancient angels and gods that were demonize by christianity(refering mostly to orthodox christiany and roman catholics), so lilith was an angel, a helper, before the patriarcal christianity was born......one example of this is lucifer, he was actually a spirit (god or angel)that gave wisdom to ancient romans, but than, when catholicisim took over rome, he became an evil spirit, if not the source of all evil....it makes you think doesn it??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hypocrite.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mf_popeanim.gif)


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post Jul 12 2008, 11:09 PM
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One last question. This question is the greatest of all for me: Lilith was the first female angel to have sex with a human our ancestor Adam. She parented beings called succub and incubbi. Second Samael had sex with Lilith and Eve. If Lilith + Adam = spirits, Adam + Eve= humans and Samael + Eve = spirits. Then common sense to me to say is that any spirit is a cousin of you, me and everybody else in the world. So am I right or am I crazy(loco)?

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post Jul 15 2008, 02:50 PM
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it sounds like thats the way it is.....interesting question....I never thought of it like that...hey look its my transparent cousin who could go throught walls......it sounds so weird, im not sure i have no other way to react to that...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bicycle.gif)


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post Jul 15 2008, 03:45 PM
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I think I just figure something else out if humans are descendants of gods and are related to them, then we are gods. I found that Enki(Samael)'s descendant Kalimath married Seth our ancestor who was also some guardian of the Holy Mountain. Then the other thing is that Kabbalah was given to us by a supreme god for us to bend reality and nature as we want. By just using his names and we arrange it to affect the world the way I want. Even if somebody disagrees at this forum, to my own understanding we are gods and that we were also created by gods. I think my understanding shed's some light on who we are I think.

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post Jul 26 2008, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(asimon2008 @ Jul 13 2008, 01:09 AM) *
One last question. This question is the greatest of all for me: Lilith was the first female angel to have sex with a human our ancestor Adam. She parented beings called succub and incubbi. Second Samael had sex with Lilith and Eve. If Lilith + Adam = spirits, Adam + Eve= humans and Samael + Eve = spirits. Then common sense to me to say is that any spirit is a cousin of you, me and everybody else in the world. So am I right or am I crazy(loco)?

I think there is a problem with the Adam and Eve myth being associated with the whole world. Lets look at it realistically, The Adam and Eve/Lilith myth originated in ancient Mesopotamia, and the reason it found its way in the old testament is due to the fact that, Abraham, the first Jew, was a Mesopotamian from Ur. His belonged to a very prominent family that specialized in creation idols, and mainly worshiped the Mesopotamian moon God. I think that's how the Adam and Eve Mesopotamian myth 'bled' into the Old Testament,t and that is why I think that the Jewish calendar is a lunisolar calendar (as Abraham drew influences from his own background i.e. belonging to a family that mainly worshiped a moon god)

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post Jul 26 2008, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(asimon2008 @ Jul 15 2008, 05:45 PM) *
I think I just figure something else out if humans are descendants of gods and are related to them, then we are gods. I found that Enki(Samael)'s descendant Kalimath married Seth our ancestor who was also some guardian of the Holy Mountain. Then the other thing is that Kabbalah was given to us by a supreme god for us to bend reality and nature as we want. By just using his names and we arrange it to affect the world the way I want. Even if somebody disagrees at this forum, to my own understanding we are gods and that we were also created by gods. I think my understanding shed's some light on who we are I think.

we are Gods, the so called ancient gods were actually humans who atthe end discovered what they really are, hebrew knows them as elohims.......just like my ancestors called them, ascended ones.....


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