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 Big Bang At Cern, the end of the world?
esoterica
post Sep 11 2008, 07:10 AM
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i'm sure you've seen this on the news, if you watch the news - for those old folks like me, the cern facility is nearing completion and has begun testing - i had a videotape talking about it - the same videotape had regan's sdi speech on it - gives you an idea of the age of this thing

the scientists at cern take it seriously, but it is all a bit of hype, built up over 20+ years of inability to do their great experiment of proving the unified field theory, mainly because the apparatus wasn't built yet, and now it is, so the hype and hyperbole are overflowing

yesterday's event was a single 'test', and not of the whole system - they got the protons to go around counter-clockwise like very tiny race cars round a track

they push them around with magnets turned on and off by computer, kinda like a monorail or maglev train - this event was also at very low speed compared to what they want to do later

the next event is the clockwise test, where they get them going around clockwise - that event will also be at low power

finally they will get both loops going at once, and then, in test after test, steadily increase the proton speed, which they want to get as high as they can go and as near the speed of light as they can get

the light in your house, when you flip the switch on, travels at the speed of light, and lots of accelerators, like the one in texas, use electrons that can go that fast, but they don't have to use switching magnets to move the things like they do at cern

the biggest problem is, the electrons going through the wires to control the magnets only travel at the speed of light, so there is a speed at which the magnets can no longer be controlled fast enough to make the things go any faster

cern solved this by using multiple computers, but it is a highly complex dance of timing, or the magnets will fail to control the beam and there will be a puff of light somewhere as the protons slam into the rock around the tube - the end of that test, but not the end of the world

protons are heavy like tanks as opposed to electrons being lightweight like race cars, but still the weight of the protons is immeasurably tiny - there are billions of protons in the tip of a needle, and cern, like most accelerators uses a bottle of helium gas as the source of its proton, stripping away the electron just like static electricity does in the wild

when they get 'up to speed in both directions', the beams will be pointed to come at each other, meeting together at a specific point, called the 'target' (the other stock photograph, the thing that looks like a big wheel)

like banging expensive swiss watches together to see what the gears inside look like, the scientists will speedily photograph the collision of the flocks of protons, looking for stray particles that come flying out of the massive energy exchange

of course this same method has been done for years, just not on this scale, and they hope to see new particles, predicted to exist by today's new and einstein's old physics, but have never been 'photographed' because the energy wasn't ever high enough to produce them - hence they hype about the energy rivalling that of the 'big bang'

the 'god's particle' they are trying to 'photograph' is also hyped, in reality it is the 'higg's bozon', a predicted particle that purports to be the thing that connects gravity to matter, and thus eventually gives 'dark matter' its mass, and also allows life on earth to develop in gravity without flying off into space

this predicted particle is the missing link in the unified field theory, and the only force left to be 'photographed' - the unified field force's existence as a single unified thing is only present at the moment of the big bang, and gravity, transmitted through the higg's bozon, supposedly splits off from the unified force, making it un-unified, nano-seconds after the big bang, hence the pursuit of the 'nano seconds after the big bang' energy level - there is no real 'god particle', just more hype laid on the higg's bozon, as without gravity there can be no life and therefore no god - loose thinking, imo

as far as the end of the world is concerned, some conspiracy theorists have conjectured, mainly due to the biblical passage about the 'first light', that the huge energy released would create a stable, hungry wormhole that would devour the planet and everything in the universe, or somehow upset the balance of black holes and white emmitters, of piss off mother nature to the extent that all matter, including us, is destroyed

it would have to be a very hungry black hole, as the whole thing is on the micro scale, not the macro - you can't see the collision except as a tiny spark of light - you get a bigger bang with gasoline every time you drive your car

the black hole creation is nothing like nuclear meltdown where the reactor runs wild and gets so hot it melts down the containment facility releasing toxic gas and water

in the case of the black hole, it would suck any matter that it was in contact with it into itself (spewing it out the other open end of the tube), making itself slightly larger, and supposedly eventually leave an empty hole around itself and stop eating, at least thats the other side of the theory

nobody really knows how much a black hole fattens up after eating, and would it continue to touch matter or stop after the first gulp - the gravitation field of such a tiny thing would be minuscule and it would be within the much stronger gravitational field of the earth, so that is also a matter for conjecture

i suppose it is theoretically possible to create a stable wormhole (that connects from where to where?), but such a beast wouldn't be long-lived as a wormhole has two ends, and they must both be open for energy to flow, and there must be matter within the reach of the black hole for it to 'consume' - it does not eat gravity or energy, but it will eat air, but so far no such thing has happened with all the accelerators in the world, and this is yet another y2k scare

if there is a wormhole opened, and someone opens it on the other end as well, would they not be as intelligent as we are to do such a thing? - will quetzalcoatl descend the rainbow bridge from there to here, and usher in a new enlightened age?

who knows, but i probably put more faith in the return of quetzalcoatl coming through the wormhole, than the wormhole eating the world for lunch

enjoy your incarnation while you have it,

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post Sep 13 2008, 07:42 AM
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Great post, quite humorous... although I will admit some apprehension over this experiment, I find modern medicine and genetic engineering far scarier. As you say this is miniscule so I doubt it will have much effect on the planet. Does ring of an old Outer Limits though. I made a pact with the universe I'll do what it wants me to do if it can keep me comfortable and in the end it doesn't hurt... I suppose if the experiment takes us out, it will be so fast it won't hurt. I can see it now ... cooking dinner and all of the sudden... poof... hmmm WTF! Probably would be a bit disorienting. Won't hurt though, and I will be done with this place and it's wonderful inhabitants... not so bad really.

Soooo when is the BIG event? I want to make a mental note of it so if it takes us out I won't be so disoriented. Maybe I won't have to pay next month's bills.


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post Sep 15 2008, 07:54 AM
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yep, you'll have to pay the bills for a while yet, no full operation until around 2012

they've got quite a job to do with each baby step of ramping up the power, as that means retiming the magnet system each time

and their computers keep getting hacked lol

victims of their own hype, imo


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post Sep 17 2008, 07:02 AM
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If ya leave the top off the honey jar what would they expect. Their network is open to the outside? Interesting that 2012 is the year, and the bills are just starting to come in too.


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