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Quantum Gloom
post Jan 5 2009, 07:24 PM
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I had a couple things to run by everyone.

First off, I work in a nursing home.

People die in 3's. Always. Any reason for this? I've heard this before I worked there and for the last 2 years that I've been there it has definitely been validated in my own mind. When one person dies, within days there has to be 2 more. If this is not the case then there will be 5 more. Anything to make it a number divisible by 3. We just had 3 die, and a couple months before that we had 6 go.

Yes people die in nursing home but they aren't constantly dying. Months go by without deaths and then there are 3. Then a month or 2, and then 3 or 6 deaths. It's always divisible by 3. Any ideas on why this is?

Okay and now for the reason for this post being in the spirit work thread.

A black figure is commonly seen among those dying in the nursing home. Sometimes even randomly a couple sightings will be seen by people who aren't going to die any time soon. Such as today, I answered a call light and the lady said, "Who was that that was just in my room?" I said "Nobody, why?" She responded, "I saw a black figure come in and stand right there but I couldn't make out who it was." I don't know if this was because the figure was blurry or because of the terrible vision that most elderly have. Then, not 5 minutes later another woman was screaming my name so I ran to see what was going on. She asked me to take the crucifix off of her wall and hand it to her but instead I simply asked her why she wanted me to do so. She responded, "The devil is after me, I saw him plain as day, he was completely black standing right where you're standing." Of course this lady interprets a dark figure as the devil because she is very Catholic and has 2 crucifixes as well as a giant Jesus picture on her wall. I made a joke out of it, acting like I was looking for the devil under the bed and behind the wall to get her to laugh a little bit before telling her she was probably dreaming and leaving the room.

Now keep in mind I don't work at night, and these are well-lit rooms. These 2 occurrences were within minutes of eachother.

Is this some kind of reaper? A guardian of a gateway into another plane of existence?

70 people have died there within the 2 years that I've been there, and the place has been open for over 30 years, there must have been over 1000 people that have died in the building that I work in.

I would really appreciate any insight that any of you might have.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post and I look forward to hearing your responses.


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post Jan 5 2009, 10:54 PM
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I think there may be some explanation and higher logic behind these occurrences. This is just my speculation based on other experiences with energy locales. As an explanation of that phrase, what I mean is a place at which the same variety of conditions are created over and over again - such as a place of worship, a graveyard, the maternity ward, a school, etc. - so that over time the energy of the place, or rather the material of the place, retains that ambiance, to the point that it becomes easier for those situations to arise in those places in the future. It's a kind of cycle - the more something happens, the more it can happen.

There's something else that often, but not always, can happen in places. Now, i'm not entirely familiar with places where people die, but for example in places of worship the number seven often has a peculiar preponderance. I tend to see things from two different angles, so on the one hand the number seven has widespread religious connotations at least in the western world, and of course other religions hold other numbers in high regard - almost all cultures have some kind of numerological tradition of significance as it applies to omens, signs, etc. Whether it is the attachment to the number itself which manifests this phenomenon, or an independant higher geometry, I think it is impossible to say - I tend to believe in something reciprocal between the higher and lower worlds, as hermeticism teaches a philosophy of dual-energy flow in all things.

There may be a relationship between the number three and the phenomenon of death, if not found in multiple cultures, then at least in the religious tradition predominating the population of this nursing home. If they are mostly christian, a likelihood in america at least, then there is the holy trinity of course, and most devout christians have some belief surrounding seeing the trinity in succession upon or after death. The number three is associated in vedic numerology with Mercury, which is philosophically linked to communication and transit in most cultures (the transition from life into death or after-life if you will). It is also associated with the Third Sephirot, Binah, often given the attribution of Shabbatai or Saturn, which is also classically associated with death. The Third plane of the Kabbalistic system is Yetsirah which would be the first plane we ascend to on our death journey back to the source, and possibly the 'home' of such things as purgatory, various 'material' heavens, etc. The third sphere descending the middle pillar, often seen as that of the evolution of human consciousness is Yesod, being the place where our consciousness would first go upon leaving the body in that particular system, on it's transit back to Kether, should it actually ascend that far. Yesod is also the near astral plane, the place where our creations of thought reside, such as for instance the 'spectre of death'.

So, in summation my speculation is that due to the regular transition from life to death in this place - and by regular I simply mean more than once a year, unlike, say, an apartment building - that the 'boundary' if you have to give it a name (and that is a kind of insufficient name to describe the phenomenon, but in explicable terms it is conceptually sufficient) between life and 'death' is thinner, or you might say the energy has worn a rut there, such that a higher geometry has begun to manifest materially as this phenomenon of deaths divisible by three. The manifestation of the spectre of death is likely related, as this is a common archetype for human beings, and almost all cultures have either a guardian, facilitator, or guide related to death and dying. Being that the aforementioned 'boundary' is thinner in this place, assuming this is the case and it does seem likely, this means not only that a higher geometry might manifest, but also that those thoughtforms associated with that energy are more easily manifested there if not materially, then at least to the consciousness of those in the place.

After a little research, it seems that there is an adage that "Death comes in threes!" So, another possibility of that reciprocal relationship between the higher and lower worlds does exist in this instance as well - that an adage repeated and held even as a superstition of many people, manifests in this way; and of course that there is a higher reason such an adage exists in the first place.

You might speak with other nurses that work in place like the CCU of a hospital - it seems that my mother used to tell me about how people always died in groups when she worked there, although of what number I can't seem to remember. It may be far more common than this particular instance.

Of additional interest may be that:
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According to the U.S. Census Bureau's World Vital Events Per Time Unit 2006, 1.8 people die every second, globally. A tad less than "death comes in threes."

That's 105 people per minute! Just a tad more than "death comes in threes."
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It may be a tad more, but note that 105 is divisible by three, and that 1 + 8 = 9, divisible by three. Interesting, no?

There are a number of 'death comes in threes' stories surrounding hollywood as well, apparently, and of course nothing captures and shapes the consciousness of the United States, and many other industrialized nations, more than what happens to their chosen famous people, or what they do, say, etc. They are the characters of our modern mythology - the layman's heroes who like it or not, will be the stuff of legends in a thousand years. And I don't mean sarah michelle geller here, I mean Madonna, Clint Eastwood; house hold names.

So, with all this information, perhaps someone else on the forum has some additional perspective? I'm curious to learn about the relationship between death and the number three in more tribal traditions....

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post Jan 5 2009, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Quantum Gloom @ Jan 5 2009, 05:24 PM) *

A black figure is commonly seen among those dying in the nursing home.


This is the Grim Reaper.

Ok, maybe not. But it is a very common occurrence that has been very poorly explored as a facet of modern occultism.

I have known many people to report just such a thing, none of whom died within a reasonable span afterward. Most are still alive today. Historic examples exist also, such as that of a Mr. White of Dorcester in Baxter's 1691 Certainty of the World of Spirits, who said to the figure "If you have nothing else to do, I have" and went to sleep.

Most people seem to think this spirit is the Devil, a fallen angel, or some other sinister entity.

The format is universal: a black featureless human figure steps into a doorway as the person lays in bed more or less fully awake, and stands there. The person in bed thinks it is a real person in the doorway, maybe calls a name of who it might be, and then finds it is silent. Prayer, fright, sleep, or attempts at psychic warfare ensue, depending on the person involved, and then the figure is gone. Usually the person freaks out completely, being totally certain that someone was standing there just inside the room.

The incidents would not be nearly so remarkable if they were not so widespread, and so common among people with absolutely no supernatural or occult interests. Perhaps it is comparable to other incidences of "matte black humanoid apparitions" reported among witches and throughout occult lore, perhaps not. It is fascinating.




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post Jan 6 2009, 03:30 PM
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Wow. Thank you so much for your insightful responses.

Vagrant, you are correct that this is an American nursing home and the majority of the residents there are christian. That was a very interesting point you made about the holy trinity and the people dying in 3's. Your whole post was very well thought-out and I appreciate you spending your time on it.

Imperial, just like you said, these 2 particular people are not near death, and are in fairly decent health other than being physically limited. You also hit it on the head when you said that the figure was featureless. The one lady has great vision and said she saw it "plain as day, just as I see you now" but couldn't describe who it looked like.

Thanks guys and please if you want to elaborate more on it be my guest. As well as anyone else that has heard anything or comes across anything related to this.


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post Jan 12 2009, 03:13 AM
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QUOTE(Quantum Gloom @ Jan 6 2009, 12:24 PM) *
A black figure is commonly seen among those dying in the nursing home.


The Reaper is quite real. Saturn/Chronos/Uriel/Shani. There are a lot of different names for him, but you're essentially looking at the same entity either way. Uriel is one of the figures whose presence we ask for during the LBRP, don't forget. ;-)

There is a Latin quotation in relation to Kali Ma, as well.
"Mater genuit; Mater receipt." - "Mother bore me; Mother took me back."

I remember about 18 hours before my grandmother passed away from cancer, close to ten years ago now. I went and saw her, and she was complaining of nightmares. I closed my eyes and reached out astrally around the room a bit, and although I didn't see anything physically, got a very clear mental visual of a huge dark figure. It was immense, and ovular in shape; probably 7-8 feet tall, by about 3 feet wide at the widest point. In hindsight I used to wonder if it was my first impression of Kali, but one thing I remember about the energy was that it was fairly distinctly male.

The only frightening aspect was the appearance; I didn't actually sense anything threatening from its' energy at all. The appearance is basically consistent with the Saturnine sphere; I remember someone mentioning that they had evoked Sandalphon on this board once, and also mentioning a lot of black/brown in terms of appearance.

As a sphere, Saturn isn't really a very nice place, no. Bardon actually warns people doing evocational/astral projection work to stay away from it. However, what he also maintains, which I would agree with, is that as unpleasant as it might be on the surface, it is very necessary.

"Meet Joe Black," is actually an interesting film about the Reaper, if you wanted to have a look at it. Brad Pitt does some very good acting in it, and it essentially depicts what the Reaper is supposed to be; basically a bus driver for the dead. I don't believe he has any hugely negative intentions, at all; he basically just comes to wait for people, and escort them home when it's time.

It might actually be a movie that you could show in the nursing home at some point. The single biggest thing which tends to cause fear, I find, is unfamiliarity and lack of knowledge. If the people there know who he is, and that he doesn't have any fundamentally negative intentions towards them, they will possibly be less afraid when he shows up.

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Sometimes even randomly a couple sightings will be seen by people who aren't going to die any time soon. Such as today, I answered a call light and the lady said, "Who was that that was just in my room?" I said "Nobody, why?" She responded, "I saw a black figure come in and stand right there but I couldn't make out who it was."


Are you sure she's not going to die any time soon? If he is going into her room very directly like that, I suspect he probably knows something you don't. It might be a good idea to tell the woman in question to call her relatives, and tell them to come and see her; also for her to make sure that her will is in order, etc.

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I don't know if this was because the figure was blurry or because of the terrible vision that most elderly have. Then, not 5 minutes later another woman was screaming my name so I ran to see what was going on. She asked me to take the crucifix off of her wall and hand it to her but instead I simply asked her why she wanted me to do so. She responded, "The devil is after me, I saw him plain as day, he was completely black standing right where you're standing."


That's two. Who's the third?


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post Jan 14 2009, 08:59 PM
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Like I said, these people weren't near death and still they are fine.

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post Jan 16 2009, 03:00 AM
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Generally a Psychopomp is a spirit that helps people walk to the other side, and help one get accustomed to the idea of dying. You have to be frank here and realize just as your patients have, they have been put in that home to die. That spirit you see wandering around may be the mid-twentieth century American Psychopomp. These people may have had some insight or closure about death, and had a strange encounter with a large deity soon after. Who knows? I wouldn't attribute this character's visit to a soon death, because death itself is the living's giant mystery, and I'm fairly sure on the other-side life is just the same. These are my guesses at this type of phenomena, though I doubt this sort of thing is a rarity in the sort of field you work in. I'm sure you have a lot more activity when the moon is full or on major holidays (including Halloween.) Let me know if you have any further questions. I think what you might be worried about, "is this type of thing is evil" and on that note I'd say that has to do with your personal Theologies, but no I don't think you have anything to worry about other than rearranging your own head-space.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopomp

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post Jan 26 2009, 09:23 PM
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Nah I'm not worried about anything, I just wanted to hear some ideas as to what this thing might be. I personally have my own set of beliefs that are not spot-on with any known religion.

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post Jan 31 2009, 04:10 AM
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QUOTE(Quantum Gloom @ Jan 6 2009, 10:24 AM) *

Is this some kind of reaper? A guardian of a gateway into another plane of existence?

Sometimes a Grim, Banshee or other psychopomp will appear to warn about the impending death of self or a loved one so that it might be prevented where possible or prepared for emotionally . At other times , the psychopomp prepares the viewer for their own demise and guides them when they die so that the spirit is buoyed upwards . There are also those psychopomps which lower the vibration constraining the wicked to lower planes such as the entities seen in the film ghost which rose up to drag the killers downwards .

The form of Death may be influenced by our own belief system , it may appear as a Grim , Banshee , Death Angel or demon et cetera . The appearance heralds a possible death but may be a helpful warning to avoid that death . One of my sons saw a dark man in a Black Suit appear in his bedroom . It woke him up and said Go and see your mother or you will die . He was only 4 or 5 . When he woke me , I felt that he had just had a nightmare and put him in my bed to sleep . But about 20 minutes later he was breathing noisily so I decided to take him to the ER thinking it was asthma .

When I arrived a nurse carried him inside because it was a cold winter morning and he said Croopy Babs with a smile as he took him from my car . I took my time as I nonchalantly parked the car and packed the nappy bag , his spacer , a favorite blanket and book . But when I walked into the ER another nurse approached me saying he was being taken by ambulance to another hospital . I was confused . I replied that my child came in with some coughing and noisy breathing . But she took me back to a blue child who had eyes rolled back in his head and who appeared cyanotic and lifeless . He had coded twice in the short time since the nurse had taken him from my car . It turns out that he had both asthma and bronchitis . Taking him into the cold night air had exacerbated his respiratory distress .
I knelt on the floor in a guise to pretend to be out of the way as they attempted resuscitation . I held his hand sending healing as I called to his spirit in my mind's voice yelling at him for leaving and ordering him to come back to his body like a mum yelling at a kid to come in from play to eat dinner . I heard him laugh clairaudiently as he came back to his body . Then we bundled him up and transported him to the Pediatric Hospital.

When he improved he taught me that the dark man was a death angel who warned him to get help or die . I listen much better now to such warnings . And I am so grateful that he listened well .


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