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Dancing Coyote
post Jan 12 2009, 02:16 AM
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The reason I post this here is because I generally like the flow of Chaos Magic(k) it's dirt cheap, easy, and fun to use. One of my goals is to find a proper banishing ritual, or I might just make one myself. Problem: I do know of some of them that work for other people but I don't think they would work for me. I'd like to get some information on how to either start my own or maybe see some other alternatives. A few books I've read had said to do a banishing ritual after a composition of magic(k), and one Chaos Magic(k) book I read said that reciting the banishing ritual both before and after a ceremoy worked best for this particular practitioner. What I'm looking for is something I can make that's short, and I can say on-the-go. I thought about using poetry as a medium. Any ideas?

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post Jan 25 2009, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE(Dancing Coyote @ Jan 12 2009, 04:16 AM) *

The reason I post this here is because I generally like the flow of Chaos Magic(k) it's dirt cheap, easy, and fun to use. One of my goals is to find a proper banishing ritual, or I might just make one myself. Problem: I do know of some of them that work for other people but I don't think they would work for me. I'd like to get some information on how to either start my own or maybe see some other alternatives. A few books I've read had said to do a banishing ritual after a composition of magic(k), and one Chaos Magic(k) book I read said that reciting the banishing ritual both before and after a ceremoy worked best for this particular practitioner. What I'm looking for is something I can make that's short, and I can say on-the-go. I thought about using poetry as a medium. Any ideas?

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My recommendation is to use an NLP-banishing. It can go by various names or none at all; it doesn't really matter. This ritual can be simple and quick, and effective within the short-term. Essentially, it is a light self-hypnosis. Yoga uses this a lot. The intention is to create a body-mind connection using the imagination. Go about this process intuitively and liberally. An example borrowed directly from a Yoga instructor encouraged the practitioner to lay down in a Savasana position (death posture) and to imagine a light slowly radiating upwards from the feet to the head. As the light engulfed the limbs it would leave them lifeless, generating a sense of peace and actual healing through relaxation . This is only one example. As I mentioned earlier, you can adapt it for your own purposes, using something that resonates with you. This technique works best if you enter a trance state regularly and are familiar with it. A lot of people will mention a moment when a "chill" runs up the spin or radiates through the chest once the "banishing" and healing is taking place. This is not uniform, but it could serve as a guide post.

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QUOTE(HSetesh @ Jan 25 2009, 11:28 PM) *

My recommendation is to use an NLP-banishing. It can go by various names or none at all; it doesn't really matter. This ritual can be simple and quick, and effective within the short-term. Essentially, it is a light self-hypnosis. Yoga uses this a lot. The intention is to create a body-mind connection using the imagination. Go about this process intuitively and liberally. An example borrowed directly from a Yoga instructor encouraged the practitioner to lay down in a Savasana position (death posture) and to imagine a light slowly radiating upwards from the feet to the head. As the light engulfed the limbs it would leave them lifeless, generating a sense of peace and actual healing through relaxation . This is only one example. As I mentioned earlier, you can adapt it for your own purposes, using something that resonates with you. This technique works best if you enter a trance state regularly and are familiar with it. A lot of people will mention a moment when a "chill" runs up the spin or radiates through the chest once the "banishing" and healing is taking place. This is not uniform, but it could serve as a guide post.

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Yeah, this is how I do astrial travel and general meditation. My Banishing Ritual came to me with the help of Vagrant Dreamer, in the form of poetry. I'm not sure it's exactly a banishing ritual but it certainly works in similar cuneiform. It was meant to start the day and end the day, starting and ending larger magickal works, and empowering me.

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post Jan 27 2009, 08:36 PM
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My Banishing Ritual came to me with the help of Vagrant Dreamer, in the form of poetry.


This is interesting. Can you describe this in greater detail?

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This is interesting. Can you describe this in greater detail?


Yeah, I had sent him a message detailing what I was looking for and he told me several ways of finding it. The underlying message was "You should look within, rather than without" and I thanked him and went along with my business.


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post Jan 28 2009, 02:40 AM
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Yeah, I had sent him a message detailing what I was looking for and he told me several ways of finding it. The underlying message was "You should look within, rather than without" and I thanked him and went along with my business.


No, how do you incorporate poetry into your magickal practice?

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QUOTE(HSetesh @ Jan 28 2009, 03:40 AM) *

No, how do you incorporate poetry into your magickal practice?


Oh. I got the idea that a ritual, saying things in waking and before sleep would be a good thing for me. Like a banishing ritual, you get your mind ready (in some branches of magick) by reciting a small ritual to get you ready for the big task, usually a banishing ritual takes place after the ritual you had in mind in the first place. What I wanted was similar to a banishing ritual, but a banishing ritual wasn't exactly what I was looking for. I don't do ritual work, I don't work in groups, thus I wouldn't really need a banishing ritual. However, I did want something I could recite to get myself ready for waking, sleeping, or empower me when I needed to borrow Tyr's mighty hammer (metaphorically speaking). So I decided to create a short poem I could recite in order to fulfill those things.

The poem itself is rather personal, and I don't want to post it for multiple reasons. My metaphysical lawyer would cringe if I did so. I can tell you, if you're in to poetry: It works, just play with words. My poem doesn't rhyme, it's six words, easy to remember, easy to recite.

Does that answer your questions?

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My poem doesn't rhyme, it's six words, easy to remember, easy to recite.


Reading that made me think of the Weird Al parody of the George Harrison song--I forget what the GH song was, but the Weird Al song was 'This song is just six words long." Then again, from a chaos perspective, you could probably chant "This spell is just six words long" and get results. *shrug*

As for banishing rituals, they're as individual as the people that practise them. I find simple things like burning black and white candles help, fuming with frankincense, sprinkling hot pepper around, etc. to be useful. If something serious is going down the full spate of GD rituals usually set things right. Best way to banish, though, is to keep everything in order to begin with, and keep your astral space clean like you would your physical space.


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post Jan 28 2009, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(Dancing Coyote @ Jan 28 2009, 08:24 PM) *

Oh. I got the idea that a ritual, saying things in waking and before sleep would be a good thing for me. Like a banishing ritual, you get your mind ready (in some branches of magick) by reciting a small ritual to get you ready for the big task, usually a banishing ritual takes place after the ritual you had in mind in the first place. What I wanted was similar to a banishing ritual, but a banishing ritual wasn't exactly what I was looking for. I don't do ritual work, I don't work in groups, thus I wouldn't really need a banishing ritual. However, I did want something I could recite to get myself ready for waking, sleeping, or empower me when I needed to borrow Tyr's mighty hammer (metaphorically speaking). So I decided to create a short poem I could recite in order to fulfill those things.

The poem itself is rather personal, and I don't want to post it for multiple reasons. My metaphysical lawyer would cringe if I did so. I can tell you, if you're in to poetry: It works, just play with words. My poem doesn't rhyme, it's six words, easy to remember, easy to recite.

Does that answer your questions?

Coyote


These sorts of mnemonic devices are very interesting. The mantra of the poem acts as a sort of mood/energy-switch. I imagine you can funnel certain energies and activities into the mantra/poem and use it as a way of engineering your behavior. Awesome.

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post Jan 29 2009, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(Dancing Coyote @ Jan 28 2009, 08:24 PM) *
I don't do ritual work, I don't work in groups, thus I wouldn't really need a banishing ritual.


I have found that banishing is a focusing tool that has usefulness in and out of group situations. In fact, I think it's a necessary counterpart to meditation. Why don't you do ritual or group work?

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QUOTE(HSetesh @ Jan 28 2009, 11:25 PM) *

These sorts of mnemonic devices are very interesting. The mantra of the poem acts as a sort of mood/energy-switch. I imagine you can funnel certain energies and activities into the mantra/poem and use it as a way of engineering your behavior. Awesome.


Yes, this is what I was looking for exactly. It works wonders.

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I have found that banishing is a focusing tool that has usefulness in and out of group situations. In fact, I think it's a necessary counterpart to meditation. Why don't you do ritual or group work?


Ritual work in groups I've had difficulty finding adequate practitioners (that meet my standards) willing to work in groups, and interested in working with me without some sort of dramatic hissy-combat ordeal.


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QUOTE(Dancing Coyote @ Jan 29 2009, 08:11 PM) *

Yes, this is what I was looking for exactly. It works wonders.
Ritual work in groups I've had difficulty finding adequate practitioners (that meet my standards) willing to work in groups, and interested in working with me without some sort of dramatic hissy-combat ordeal.


I have found that group-ritual reinforced with the comaraderie of fraternity adds a powerful, dynamic element to the magickal experience. Have you ever considered applying to the IOT?

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I have found that group-ritual reinforced with the comaraderie of fraternity adds a powerful, dynamic element to the magickal experience. Have you ever considered applying to the IOT?


IOT?
I've heard the term, but don't exactly know the meaning: is it some sort of group? I'm not much for industrious magical gatherings.


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IOT?
I've heard the term, but don't exactly know the meaning: is it some sort of group? I'm not much for industrious magical gatherings.


Illuminates of Thanateros. Why are you not for industrious, magickal gatherings? They're a shit-load of fun!
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Illuminates of Thanateros. Why are you not for industrious, magickal gatherings? They're a shit-load of fun!
http://iota.goetia.net/


Sometimes, they could be fun. But I could see a lot of "mine's bigger' contests going on. I might check them out one of these days, at one of their gatherings but I'm not of any specific organization and don't plan to be.


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Sometimes, they could be fun. But I could see a lot of "mine's bigger' contests going on. I might check them out one of these days, at one of their gatherings but I'm not of any specific organization and don't plan to be.


They have a bottom-down pecking order. The Neophyte is demoted by being given more responsibilities. So, the "mine's bigger" ego complex is a less frequent occurrence. Yet, I've put in more than my two cents worth. I find it interesting that you appreciate being a lone magus while there are many people who would like to belong to a fraternity but are stuck in isolation due to their geographic location or a lack of awareness. Peace.

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They have a bottom-down pecking order. The Neophyte is demoted by being given more responsibilities. So, the "mine's bigger" ego complex is a less frequent occurrence. Yet, I've put in more than my two cents worth. I find it interesting that you appreciate being a lone magus while there are many people who would like to belong to a fraternity but are stuck in isolation due to their geographic location or a lack of awareness. Peace.


I wouldn't mind being in a social group, (I do spend an awful lot of time on the forum). A sense of belonging is very prevalent in most magicians, but some industrious magickal groups can easily turn into a cult. I don't jump into something without knowing everything about it, otherwise there are unseen consequences I haven't planned for, and that is where the danger lies. If I were to do a magickal grouping, it would be with people I'm very familiar with, and I can trust. I don't want to enter a group being considered a "neophyte" so the higher ups can sit around while I go fetch them beers.


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I wouldn't mind being in a social group, (I do spend an awful lot of time on the forum). A sense of belonging is very prevalent in most magicians, but some industrious magickal groups can easily turn into a cult. I don't jump into something without knowing everything about it, otherwise there are unseen consequences I haven't planned for, and that is where the danger lies. If I were to do a magickal grouping, it would be with people I'm very familiar with, and I can trust. I don't want to enter a group being considered a "neophyte" so the higher ups can sit around while I go fetch them beers.


That is an unfair description considering you have never joined a magickal society or cult. Again, I respect your solitary studies; solitude surrounds most of my practice as well. Yet, I encourage you not to make assumptions about the nature of group-ritual or magickal societies. In short: don't knock it till you try it.

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QUOTE(HSetesh @ Jan 29 2009, 10:49 PM) *

That is an unfair description considering you have never joined a magickal society or cult. Again, I respect your solitary studies; solitude surrounds most of my practice as well. Yet, I encourage you not to make assumptions about the nature of group-ritual or magickal societies. In short: don't knock it till you try it.


I apologize, what I mean is this: The big group thing probably isn't for me, but I look forward to seeing it from a third party perspective, and/or participating.


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QUOTE(Dancing Coyote @ Jan 12 2009, 04:16 AM) *

The reason I post this here is because I generally like the flow of Chaos Magic(k) it's dirt cheap, easy, and fun to use. One of my goals is to find a proper banishing ritual, or I might just make one myself. Problem: I do know of some of them that work for other people but I don't think they would work for me. I'd like to get some information on how to either start my own or maybe see some other alternatives. A few books I've read had said to do a banishing ritual after a composition of magic(k), and one Chaos Magic(k) book I read said that reciting the banishing ritual both before and after a ceremoy worked best for this particular practitioner. What I'm looking for is something I can make that's short, and I can say on-the-go. I thought about using poetry as a medium. Any ideas?

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Here's one I use to use:
Face the most appropriate direction. Recite:
"I have come to make a temple
With fire I cleanse and purify the air
With fire I cleanse and purify the ground
My shield is strong and ready
My sword is merciless and cruel
Let my enemies be bound by fear
Let my enemies be consumed by fire
Let my enemies be scattered by the wind
None that would do me harm will find quarter here"

It worked very well for me. I usually held some kind of weapon, or just tented my fingers on occasion.

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