Ritual Space Options

Greetings all,

I practice alone, am not a member of a group, and have a question re: ritual space. For several years I've had the luxury of having an entire room in my home dedicated to ritual use - large and empty, save for window coverings, a ritual circle painted on the floor, and an altar. I have been forced by economic necessity to rent a room out in my home, and my former ritual room is now also my music room and library, furnished with books, antiques, paintings, etc., none of which have occult connotations.

Question: Many (including a former teacher) believe that ritual space should be used ONLY for that purpose, or that ritual tools and the like should be hidden from view if non-practitioners are to be in the room for any reason. Must this always be so? The room is not a place of heavy foot traffic. I keep the door closed. I may at times have friends over for music making (a harpsichord is in the room) but they are aware of my interest in the occult, and are respectful of it and of things related to it. I tried rolling a large rug down over the circle, but it doesn't completely cover it. I've also hidden things from view when others are in the room, even though those who come into the room (not many) have no problem with them. Some might say that even just MY using the room for non-ritual related purposes is "wrong". I read in front of the fireplace for example, or listen to music with a glass of wine. Prior to every ritual conducted in the room, I do cleanse the space.

I suspect the most ceremonial magicians and others, over the centuries, rarely had the luxury of a dedicated room for ritual use. How do you deal with the necessity of having ritual space that must do double duty? In my experience at least, my dual-purpose ritual space is still potent when I conduct rituals, and even when it was a dedicated space, "outsiders" still had to come in at times - landlord and electricians for example - and I just rededicated and purified the space after wards.

maybe a flimsy barrier of some sort could be used, after all room's walls are but a flimsy physical barrier

how about the sheet type thing they pull around a bed in the hospital, or a cubicle partition?

i assume your original floor is free from clutter and these things only line the walls, stepping over the viola on the way to the altar could present a distraction if nothing else

interesting object-possession possibilities aside, IMO it should be possible to develop some sort of false wall between the ritual and the mundane

Very few of the older systems (The Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin, for example) require a room set aside for occult practices where all others are forbidden to enter and nothing else can occur. More commonly, you are required to go far away from civilization. Sometimes it is not specified, but rather obviously there are things to be done in private, and in these cases there are no rules given in regard to the use of the area outside the ceremonies.

The more modern systems (Eliphas Levi to the present) seem to depend more on the condition of the magician and/or preliminary invocations and purifications. Levi mentions some of his most potent work being done at the end of a hallway in someone else's house. Austin Spare is reported to have conjured "something" abominable on his dinner table, and that was well before TV dinners. Crowley bought a whole house explicitly for performing rituals, but by his own accounts his best works were done at a tourist attraction, in a hotel room, and while walking about in the desert.

Aside from living persons, the fantasy archetype of magicians is that of a person of great power whose home is almost always a total mess. Books, skulls, zoological artifacts, rocks, plants, equipment, and anything else can be imagined in the sanctuary of a wizard. Imagine Gargamel the magician in a clean house with a spare room for conjuring!

Unless you are making a devoted effort to work with a system that explicitly forbids intrusion, as I gather you are not, feel free to make your own regulations as to how you manage ritual space.

maybe a flimsy barrier of some sort could be used, after all room's walls are but a flimsy physical barrier

how about the sheet type thing they pull around a bed in the hospital, or a cubicle partition?

i assume your original floor is free from clutter and these things only line the walls, stepping over the viola on the way to the altar could present a distraction if nothing else

interesting object-possession possibilities aside, IMO it should be possible to develop some sort of false wall between the ritual and the mundane

Many thanks for your reply. As the circle is in the center of the room, partitioning this off would leave odd passageways filled with furnishings all around, and make the room somewhat unusable as the library and music room which it now also functions as. The circle area is free from clutter, as you assume. I do appreciate your suggestion - will post photos of the room at some point to more clearly illustrate.

Very few of the older systems (The Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin, for example) require a room set aside for occult practices where all others are forbidden to enter and nothing else can occur. More commonly, you are required to go far away from civilization. Sometimes it is not specified, but rather obviously there are things to be done in private, and in these cases there are no rules given in regard to the use of the area outside the ceremonies.

The more modern systems (Eliphas Levi to the present) seem to depend more on the condition of the magician and/or preliminary invocations and purifications. Levi mentions some of his most potent work being done at the end of a hallway in someone else's house. Austin Spare is reported to have conjured "something" abominable on his dinner table, and that was well before TV dinners. Crowley bought a whole house explicitly for performing rituals, but by his own accounts his best works were done at a tourist attraction, in a hotel room, and while walking about in the desert.

Aside from living persons, the fantasy archetype of magicians is that of a person of great power whose home is almost always a total mess. Books, skulls, zoological artifacts, rocks, plants, equipment, and anything else can be imagined in the sanctuary of a wizard. Imagine Gargamel the magician in a clean house with a spare room for conjuring!

Unless you are making a devoted effort to work with a system that explicitly forbids intrusion, as I gather you are not, feel free to make your own regulations as to how you manage ritual space.

Thank you! Good advice and information, much appreciated, some of which I sensed in my gut bit wanted to hear from another.

All depends on what and where in my opinion, at the moment I'm using my bedroom as a makeshift temple, have plenty of floor space for it and have quite cleverly (if I dare say so myself, *fondles ego*) adapted it so it 'transforms' into a temple. That being said I'm ''not'' happy with the set up, a room will pick up ''excess'' energy, transmitted by visitors, your actions and so on, having a dedicated space permits for a certain Feng Sui to stay and flow through it... all in all a bit like hosting a transmitter in a rusting unit rather than a clean one, of course it will work but don't be surprised if small rodents sneak in and gnaw at the wires on occasion .lol.

The problems I've noticed so far; At times its obvious that the atmosphere is not a normal one, have experienced various energies in it and it dosen't suit as I live at home with parents, have had negative entities pass through literally waking me out of my sleep, when its clean it can at times come across as being sanctified which is how I would much rather keep it in place of it being filled with foul smelling socks and laundry when in which case it dosen't come across as sanctified no matter how much frankincense has been burned.

The most ''worrysome'' incident happened when I came home from work one day, before I entered my room I could feel a distinct presence mulling around, past any magickal super extra perceptions it was dence enough for me to worry that someone had broken in, what ever it as left as I entered.... one thing I would like to try is setting up some E.V.P equipent in the room (if it were spare), cameras, a tape recorder and so on, see if anything can be picked up, a studio come temple would be perfect in that case but there you go. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

If you can, do... and if you can't, improvise.

Peace
.M.

This post has been edited by Mchawi: Apr 18 2009, 09:05 AM

Question: Many (including a former teacher) believe that ritual space should be used ONLY for that purpose, or that ritual tools and the like should be hidden from view if non-practitioners are to be in the room for any reason. Must this always be so?

In most cases I would say yes. Unless you really have no other choice.
People will bring in different energies ("vibes") into your space.

The room is not a place of heavy foot traffic. I keep the door closed. I may at times have friends over for music making (a harpsichord is in the room) but they are aware of my interest in the occult, and are respectful of it and of things related to it. I tried rolling a large rug down over the circle, but it doesn't completely cover it. I've also hidden things from view when others are in the room, even though those who come into the room (not many) have no problem with them.

Those who are not in harmony or even sympathetic to your beliefs can interfere with your magickal devlopement. Thoughts do carry power (even if they are not trained).
If someone for example thinks the occult is nonsense this person's mind will send out energies that will cut down your success rate for your magickal workings.

Some might say that even just MY using the room for non-ritual related purposes is "wrong". I read in front of the fireplace for example, or listen to music with a glass of wine. Prior to every ritual conducted in the room, I do cleanse the space.

Its not just about the cleansing. If you drink wine and such thing; the food/beverages you bring
in absorbs all sorts of energies as well.
Even if you "cleanse" your space it may not be enough. Its depends on how prevasive is the contamination and how powerful your cleansing is. Plus when you cleanse you also cast out previous built up energies.

I'm about to begin setting up my attic as a ritual space, It won't be anything fancy, but there is plenty of room, enough for about a nine foot circle, and lot's of room overhead. The attic isn't finished, I have some carpet remnants for the floor, as well as the pad that goes underneath, and I am thinking about stringing a line in a large square outside of the circle, and hanging bolts of cloth from about seven feet up, to about a foot off the floor, this would block off the rest of the attic from view, and it would also provide a way to hang sigils, symbols, flags. etc. according to whatever working I'm doing. I can make a floor cloth whith a circle painted on it, and I plan to build an altar of the doubled cube type. The attic door locks with a skeleton key(the original lock), which should be enough to keep everybody out. I'm trying to be mindful of fire safety, and will be using very heavy, stable candle holders.

Is there anything else I should be thinking of ? Does anybody have any ideas from using thier own area that may be helpful?

Is there anything else I should be thinking of ?

Ventilation?

Ventilation?

Oh, yes, windows in the north and south peaks.

Yeah the ventilation is a good ideal especially if your burning charcoal so you dont get carbon monoxide poisoning.