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azareth
post Apr 5 2009, 01:55 PM
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I have some experiences that i would like to share with you.

I often see swarming dots of white light,that seem to move in an intelligent way,I used to see this when i was young specially in bathrooms.
I see a ball of white light sliding from up to down in a circular motion with the corner of my right eye.
(always the right eye).

I see things stretching and contracting regularly,almost daily.
I hear voices speaking in arabic saying words that make very little sense,these words however are not mine.

Hope i am not going crazy,but let me know if anyone have same experiences.

I really need an explaination,I thought these are spirits,yet i am not sure


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post Apr 8 2009, 08:15 PM
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I have some experiences that i would like to share with you.

I often see swarming dots of white light,that seem to move in an intelligent way,I used to see this when i was young specially in bathrooms.


If I think you are seeing what I think you are, its just the light bouncing off the rods and cones of your optic nerve. In well lit areas, like a bathroom maybe, your eyes are constantly adjusting and focusing as you look around. You are taking in an immense about of information. Think of a 32 bit photo and how if you look closely at it you can see a bunch of little boxes. The human eye sees with MUCH greater resolution. The swarming dots are just gaps where your eyes cannot dicern the color.

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I see things stretching and contracting regularly,almost daily.


Again I'm not totally sure what you mean. But it could also just be how you percieve things as you look at them.

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I hear voices speaking in arabic saying words that make very little sense,these words however are not mine.


That's a bit more concerning. But it doesn't mean you are crazy either. Its possible for a head injury or other medical condition to cause this. It could also be due to a defficiency or animia of some sort. Or you may be exposed to something toxic. There are a lot of possibilities. If this has been going on for a long time now I would recommend consulting a doctor.





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post Apr 8 2009, 08:44 PM
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Do you speak arabic?

Strings of words often pass through my mind loudly enough that someone might have spoken them near me. However, I recognize several languages when I hear them spoken aloud simply by virtue of wide exposure to different cultures - my mind can reproduce the flavor of these languages easily, although when followed up with some study the words prove to be 'sound salad'; nothing more than creative manifestations of a natural fascination with languages. I can sense intention behind the words sometimes, but that is no reason to jump to the conclusion that it is anything other than one's own mind.

Until we reach a state of mental control in which we are able to choose when to think, rather than when to have a quiet mind, can we be certain of the nature of anything in our mind. So, just because these thoughts are spontaneous does not mean you are being spoken to, or overhearing, anything other than the creative outbursts of your own mind.

Try to write the things you hear down when you can, and follow up with some translation research.

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post Apr 9 2009, 10:48 AM
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The light thing would tend to be related to the optic nerves as Acid mentioned, a change in your system could be effecting your perception/s, any bodily stress that effects your energy levels in some way or another, while your body is adapting to any given change or process the reshuffle will have implications on your sences you'll see, hear and even smell things you didn't notice before.

Am attempting to fix my diet for example, went through a time where I thought I was going mad until I remembered that the lack of meat and other products in my diet works well to clear blocked channels and that that was the purpose in the first place .lol. Apparently meat grounds you, didn't think of it before but its obvious it does.

Mind control excersizes tend to drive the mind into all kinds of 'resistance' as V.D mentioned and Meditation/ritual frees up latent energy like no ones business. If you actually heard voices you'd be (much) more worried than you seem to be.

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post Apr 9 2009, 01:34 PM
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Actually its not bothering me,its only my curiousity that made me inquire about it,I want to know,that's what i always want,well the optical nerves are a good theory,but what causes it..?The smal light dots,happened to me from a long time ago,what i am curious about it is the dots move in an intelligent way,not that of random particles they seem to have a life of their own..but maybe there is some scientific explaination.
The voices why do they speak.? what do they need,yet its me whom must find this out,what I wanted to know is did anyone have any similar experiences of some sort,I am not so worried because these occurances do not cause me truoble,as I can distinguish between the real and unreal,I find actually different levels of reality,there are levels that are dreamlike,hazy..others are sharp,clear and intense,others are of complete separation,I am not who i am,i detach from my body and watch the events from a third person observer state.

The sliding down ball of light,occured first when i was doing LBRP ,it didnt happen after for a while after some time I see it often even when i am not doing Rituals.
It still happens until today,the occurances are not accompanied any pain of discomfort whatsoever.




what do voices say..?
they talk in a fast unclear words,but after a while they seem to be more undserstandable,they are spoken in male or female voice,the language is arabic,in rare occasions english,they resemble normal life terminology,the voices are not mine ,they are other people's,sometimes the voices say something and it happen,but in rare occasions.




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post Apr 9 2009, 03:59 PM
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What do you mean when you say the dots of light move in an intelligent manner? Like try to describe what they do.

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Try to write the things you hear down when you can, and follow up with some translation research.

That's not a bad idea. Maybe if you write a journal and try to make a log about these voices you might find some correlation between them and your environment. Like keep track of the time and the day. Maybe they happen at specific times or are caused by something more specific. Some people, a rare few, who are ultra sensitive to electromagnetic fields are actually prone to paranormal phenonmenon when exposed to powerful electronic devices and natural forces. Now, scientifically, most experts will just tell you that such people only experience hallucinations, and nothing more. But I try to keep an open mind. A lot of mediums are pretty dead on with their "hallucinations". Maybe you are able to percieve beings on another realm.

At any rate while these things may not be bothering you, you might want to get checked out just in case there is something medically wrong. Its better to deal with it sooner rather than later.


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post Apr 11 2009, 12:37 PM
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"What do you mean when you say the dots of light move in an intelligent manner? Like try to describe what they do."


well they all move in one direction sometimes merge with each other forming geometric shapes ,but sometimes they are merged and they separate merge again and form a new shape.they occur suddenly without any cause.


I will make a log about the voices,i will write in my grimoire.that's a good idea.
I dont think I will go to a doctor because of a certain believe i have (doctors are black magicians,they confirm your illness make you believe you are sick and you stay sick ) i believe in self healing,even though i dont believe that i am sick.

There are great experiences with pyramid shapes for healing,also some ancient potions for healing,healing by gemstones,that's my world and I totally believe in it,i dont need some doctor to give me some chemicals that fix something and destroy another.

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post Apr 11 2009, 04:23 PM
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Well the spheres of light could be an optic nerve issue (I’ve experienced this before when moving to quickly).

But, from the few people I have talked to, who have genuinely (they aren’t crazy, attention seeking liars with any interest in the occult) experienced encounters with “ghost” describe seeing spheres of light, and hearing unintelligible voices.

Don’t go to a doctor, honestly if a brain MRI and blood work don’t bring up anything abnormal, they’ll just prescribe pills (They will “pressure/encourage ” you) and that’s a trying battle especially when finding out which brand doesn‘t make you sick and or actually works. What good will that do, if your genuinely experiencing supernatural phenomenon.

My advice is to. . .

A. Seek out another occult forum for advice. (You’ll basically get non-professional medical advice here, which isn‘t a bad thing necessarily (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) )

B. Perform some type of banishing (I don’t think it is a good idea to live side by side with an uninvited spirit) such as, smudging with sage, LBRP, Holy Water, Prayers, Cleansing Baths, or Salt Water.

So you understand Arabic? If not then that’s pretty random unless the spirit’s origin is Arabic and or they are actually speaking some archaic form of Arabic.

I heard that leaving a tape recorder in the room where your hearing the voices could work. . .

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post Apr 14 2009, 04:50 PM
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well they all move in one direction sometimes merge with each other forming geometric shapes ,but sometimes they are merged and they separate merge again and form a new shape.they occur suddenly without any cause.


So almost like a sort of kelidascope affect?

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I dont think I will go to a doctor because of a certain believe i have (doctors are black magicians,they confirm your illness make you believe you are sick and you stay sick ) i believe in self healing,even though i dont believe that i am sick.


Interestingly enough in Jungian typology he uses doctors as an example of the dark aspect of the magician in that they are lablers. People go to them as though they are experts and trust that what the doctor says is "truth". So if you go to a doctor and tell him a list of symptoms and he says you have a cold, you tend to believe him, even though you may have something else.

At any rate seeing things and hearing voices is not a good sign, just putting that out there. Maybe you are getting more intuned to a sensitivity to natural or psychic forces. But if you have had an injury or were exposed to something harmful (perhaps even just mold in old air ducts or something) then not dealing with it at all could be worse than hearing possible BS from a doctor. And in all likelihood if you did see a doctor and nothing was physically wrong with you, he'd probably refer you to a psychiatrist - who can just as easily "label" you with their "expert" opinions.

The real point of seeing a doctor is not to get you hooked on medication to make you "normal" (something I don't really believe in when it comes to humans) or to make you go through expensive procedures. Its to make sure that if you've been exposed to something toxic or have some sort of injury, that it does not go unchecked and get worse or manifest as something that actually is a bother.


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"What do you mean when you say the dots of light move in an intelligent manner? Like try to describe what they do."
well they all move in one direction sometimes merge with each other forming geometric shapes ,but sometimes they are merged and they separate merge again and form a new shape.they occur suddenly without any cause.
I will make a log about the voices,i will write in my grimoire.that's a good idea.
I dont think I will go to a doctor because of a certain believe i have (doctors are black magicians,they confirm your illness make you believe you are sick and you stay sick ) i believe in self healing,even though i dont believe that i am sick.

There are great experiences with pyramid shapes for healing,also some ancient potions for healing,healing by gemstones,that's my world and I totally believe in it,i dont need some doctor to give me some chemicals that fix something and destroy another.


Okay, I experience something similar. I generally see this stuff better in the dark, but I see them every night. The geometric shapes that are clustered together and move as one. Sometimes it's like they're just watching me. One time, as I was laying in bed, one of them came towards me and like merged with me. I don't know any other way to describe it. I don't hear words, but I hear like different sounds. It's kind of hard to explain, some are really high pitched others are low. Sometimes I hear drumming, or scrapping sounds, or machine-like sounds. You are the first person I've heard of to experience something similar!

You can find free Arabic to English translators online. Yeah, you are so right about doctor's, they won't understand. If it doesn't fit into the illusion they call reality, they call you crazy and give you high doses of meds that make you crazy.

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