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 Binaural Beats, Combining binaural beat-induced trance with magick?
cassiopeia
post Mar 24 2009, 06:23 PM
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I started listening to Holosync (a binaural beat program) a while ago, and it puts me in a really deep trance. You go into alpha and then theta, and the recording lasts one hour. Usually I just listen and then zone out, but I feel that I could be using that hour of altered consciousness better. A few times I have focused on my internal energies, checked for energy blocks and cleared my chakras, etc, but I'd like to try other things as well. I'm just not sure what! It would be great to try out some spellwork while listening to Holosync, but most of the work I've done involves circles, candles, invocations and all that jazz. I'm not sure how to try and replicate that when I'm sitting still, eyes closed with headphones on my head. Purely mental magick? I'm sure it can be done by those with skill, but it seems a bit difficult to me, not sure how I'd go about it.

I'm just desperate for ideas and inspiration, really, on what I can do during this deep trance. I've done a million searches on the internet, but can't find many resources connecting binaural beats with magick. Does anybody here use binaural beats in conjunction with their occult practice?


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post May 7 2009, 02:17 PM
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Focus on what you want to accomplish. Being in a trance, puts you at an advantage, you have a hold on sub-conscious when you are in a state like this. Trance work, will raise your frequencies. The binaural beats are better than subliminal and hypnosis tracks, I've found it out to be. There are 4 states the brain can function under sometimes two. Concentrating on the euphoric feeling you have will increase. You may be sensations down your spine, your forehead and/or your crown. Yes, It will make your spellwork more successful if you were too have your frequencies raised. Miracles happen when you are in the state.

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post May 8 2009, 11:03 PM
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I've played around with I-doser, Hemisync, etc, etc... and while it's interesting, I can get the same effects with deep relaxation alone.

Anyway all I've used them for in real practice was "shamanic journeying"... and other mental exercises. I never really considered trying to use them during ritual work.

However I've used them PRIOR to ritual work (brief meditation with headphones) to try and shift into a more receptive, aware, and/or relaxed state.

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post May 9 2009, 05:53 AM
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Yes i tried it yet,i have never been intrested in any automated stuff,the purpose of spiritualism is to acheive it using the spirit alone,what's the point of using a program when you can do it using your self alone.
I think we have to cut our dependancy on a machines more,yet if someone has no clue where to start and acheived nothing using the natural breathing excercises and yoga,it would be a good second option.

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post May 9 2009, 08:36 AM
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the purpose of spiritualism is to acheive it using the spirit alone


Let's not forget that any magical tool is just rudimentary "technology" used to facilitate the magical process. Words, signs, everything except the thought alone. Sure electricity can power your home, but only when properly wired. Most magical practitioners do not pursue magic with mind or spirit alone, yourself included if you actually utilize the information you have thus far posted to the forums regarding ritual and spell work.

The use of other kinds of technology to achieve various brain changes is essentially similar in my opinion, perhaps made even more efficacious by treating them like magical tools. Eventually it becomes easier and easier for your brain to go into those states, and you find that over time you are able to shift into them naturally. This is a matter of getting your brain used to the state, and nothing more - any normal person should have this experience in other words.

Using that state magically is different than just achieving it, of course. A brain state is just that - a brain state. Inasmuch as everything is inherently spiritual, it in itself has no intrinsic spiritual value. Spiritual experience is not the same thing as brain experiences, and these programs will not give you spiritual experiences - but neither will meditating into these states. It is what happens after that point, if we are seeking it, that we encounter the spiritual through practice.

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post May 9 2009, 10:48 AM
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Currently stuck having to play music over what I do so others can't hear me. Its annoying, a school I tend to sit with would advise against it completely, taking a more holistic approach (or should I say dogmatic?) they have music attuned to each grade... certain other and less dogmatic groups have the same, music for Malkuth, Yesod and so on.... anyway.... binaural beats... you could use it to achive a mind set prior to practice, playing it throughout ritual, half trance kind of thing, or you could meditate to a point and practice astrally... some would discuss the heaven to earth part in workings saying it should be actual rather than imagined or astral but thats neither here nor there, being able to practice in full whilst seated in meditation has its perks I'm sure. If not that you could use it to meditate within your circle, make contact with an entity or simply bask in the light of your work in a state of exhult and extacy.

Unless someone says that the frame of mind, the wave leangth the music puts you in is adverse to what it is you are hoping to achive theres no harm in it.Meditation is something a lot of schools and texts don't place enough importance on, key stepping stone in my opinion.

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post May 10 2009, 07:36 AM
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I would like to point out that originally binaural beats would occur all through nature and then within the Just Intonation of the Indian Shrutis and Middle Eastern Maqam, the double noted vocalizations of the Tibetan throat singers are prime examples, where two notes slightly pulling apart from one another were created.

Perhaps, replacing the body generated binaural beats with machine generated is getting further away from using the beats effectively, I don't know. Thought I am certain that a clear and precise way of Attuning Chakras is by the voice (Forced Resonance) this can also be achieved effectively with sound devises whether as musical instruments or just generators.

Generators can be used to precisely play a frequency such as the Sacred Solfeggio note 528Hz which is known to repair damaged DNA. Hitting that exact frequency by voice or instrument would be much more demanding.

A wonderful article on Trance music can be found here . . . http://www.trance.edu/drupal/

Clearly describing what is going on during ritual & ceremony.

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post May 11 2009, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(cassiopeia @ Mar 24 2009, 07:23 PM) *

I started listening to Holosync (a binaural beat program) a while ago, and it puts me in a really deep trance.

I know how you feel. The skin feels hot and you get a sensation up and down your spine. The trance feeling
feels very good. Seems like you don't have a care in the world. Everything seems peaceful. You are calm
and serene.

Keep listening to the tapes because that feeling will fade away over time. I tried one for telepathy and remote
influencing. I do think they are more effective than subliminal and hypnosis tracks. Feel a pressure in the middle
of my forehead as well as burning at top of head (crown) area.

VERY, VERY GOOD!

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