What I Believe In, absolutely, specifically Options

i have been asked, no, 'ordered', by a new, invisible entity, calling itself an 'experience teacher', that i have met recently, to detail exactly what i believe in

to put down, in print, to actually make a list (perhaps something like a creed?) of what i know, or surmise, or think may be the condition of, well, everything!

this is fast becoming the hardest thing i have ever had to do, far on top of the other hard things i have had to do before now - you can't say 'perhaps', or that you don't know something but would like to find out, or have any vagueness

this is only to be exactly what you do know, or believe, and what you know (or believe) about it

interesting...its almost like a final exam, with who knows what will be the consequences if you fail it? - this actually FEELS dangerous! - mmm, i likey!

has anybody ever done this before (or be ordered to do it), i mean being told to write up a really detailed list or statement of exactly what they believe, or how they think things work, or whatever? - what happened?

of course i don't trust this entity, but it has my attention...



edit:

the list (not the best terms, but at least some terms): - many thanks to sacred-magick's plethory of tapics and posts - you guys are fantastic!)

dimensionality (how the 3d world fits into the grand scheme of things)

spirituality (not the spiritual path itself, but where the path ultimately leads)

magick (not the magickal path itself, but where the path ultimately leads)

paranormal (ufo's and ghosts and dead people, mediumship, etc)

ism's: (overviews of personal belief systems or paradigms)

religion

oobe

astral

aethyr

people

humans

gods

cosmos

galaxy

stars

planets

energy

light

dark

in-between

communication

physical

non-physical

voices in the head

the joker

demons and angels

god, gods, goddesses and deities

paganism

christianity

symbology

divination

masturbation, mental and otherwise

drugs

ego and egotism

exploration

mediumship

psionics (energy work)

manifestation (physical and otherwise)

reality, delusion, and dopplegangers

selling stuff

buying stuff

limitations

expectations

physical conduits (sigils, words, etc)

to ritual or not to ritual (chaos versus order)

afterlife and reincarnation

previous lives and memories

senses (five, six or more?)

centers (energy and otherwise)

vampirism and vampires (all kinds)

evocation, invocation and provocation

protections?

weapons

tools

altar and sacred items

solar

lunar

planetary

astrology

dreams

dreamwork, lucid, control

gnosis

cults and organizations

left hand path vs right hand path vs middle pillar

enchantment (glamourie, illusion)

spells and spellwork

summoning

necromancy

herbs


that should do it for now! - just a few words for each topic should suffice to delineate my beliefs, prejudices, opinions, life...

can you all think of any more?

This post has been edited by esoterica: Aug 29 2009, 12:41 PM

i have been asked, no, 'ordered', by a new, invisible entity, calling itself an 'experience teacher', that i have met recently, to detail exactly what i believe in

to put down, in print, to actually make a list (perhaps something like a creed?) of what i know, or surmise, or think may be the condition of, well, everything!

this is fast becoming the hardest thing i have ever had to do, far on top of the other hard things i have had to do before now - you can't say 'perhaps', or that you don't know something but would like to find out, or have any vagueness

this is only to be exactly what you do know, or believe, and what you know (or believe) about it

interesting...its almost like a final exam, with who knows what will be the consequences if you fail it? - this actually FEELS dangerous! - mmm, i likey!

has anybody ever done this before (or be ordered to do it), i mean being told to write up a really detailed list or statement of exactly what they believe, or how they think things work, or whatever? - what happened?

of course i don't trust this entity, but it has my attention...
edit:

the list (not the best terms, but at least some terms): - many thanks to sacred-magick's plethory of tapics and posts - you guys are fantastic!)

dimensionality (how the 3d world fits into the grand scheme of things)

spirituality (not the spiritual path itself, but where the path ultimately leads)

magick (not the magickal path itself, but where the path ultimately leads)

paranormal (ufo's and ghosts and dead people, mediumship, etc)

ism's: (overviews of personal belief systems or paradigms)

religion

oobe

astral

aethyr

people

humans

gods

cosmos

galaxy

stars

planets

energy

light

dark

in-between

communication

physical

non-physical

voices in the head

the joker

demons and angels

god, gods, goddesses and deities

paganism

christianity

symbology

divination

masturbation, mental and otherwise

drugs

ego and egotism

exploration

mediumship

psionics (energy work)

manifestation (physical and otherwise)

reality, delusion, and dopplegangers

selling stuff

buying stuff

limitations

expectations

physical conduits (sigils, words, etc)

to ritual or not to ritual (chaos versus order)

afterlife and reincarnation

previous lives and memories

senses (five, six or more?)

centers (energy and otherwise)

vampirism and vampires (all kinds)

evocation, invocation and provocation

protections?

weapons

tools

altar and sacred items

solar

lunar

planetary

astrology

dreams

dreamwork, lucid, control

gnosis

cults and organizations

left hand path vs right hand path vs middle pillar

enchantment (glamourie, illusion)

spells and spellwork

summoning

necromancy

herbs
that should do it for now! - just a few words for each topic should suffice to delineate my beliefs, prejudices, opinions, life...

can you all think of any more?

I think you should only give a little bit at a time so that you can guage the value of what you are getting in return.I have very little trust in elementals,they see things in a differant way from humans,and you need to keep some abilities in reserve just in case.

yeah, it wants to help me "organize my life"

sounds kinda like the http://www.optimalthinking.com workshop that we had to do at work that time, just spiritual

unfortunately the optimalthinking thing was based on maximizing greed, or it would have been fun

but, maybe it'll help, who knows

This post has been edited by esoterica: Aug 31 2009, 10:00 AM

yeah, it wants to help me "organize my life"

sounds kinda like the http://www.optimalthinking.com workshop that we had to do at work that time, just spiritual

unfortunately the optimalthinking thing was based on maximizing greed, or it would have been fun

but, maybe it'll help, who knows

As far as I can see,you seem to be more than capable of organizing your own life.It really should be bringing a lot more than that to the table before you hand over the keys of your soul.Also as you declare your beliefs to yourself the ones thatyou are dissatisfied with will become open to change.You may have a new version of The Neverending Story on your hands.

>as you declare your beliefs to yourself the ones thatyou are dissatisfied with will become open to change

hmm...and so it seems this new entity may be more beneficial as opposed to tasty?


>>before you hand over the keys of your soul

my soul is my own, and not packaged for retail sale


it also pointed me to jacob lorber - look him up if you want - quite interesting!

thanks for 'the neverending story' bit, but like most western magick, it deals with building formation after formation and never recognizes the need to disperse the energy of the formation back into the emptiness of the void - we become manipulated rather than manipulators - 'the nothing' is as natural as breathing - in, then out

thanks again - something else i needed clearing up i guess!

Namaste;

Simply believe nothing that you have not of your own experience. As a pragmatic rule, this will lead to your Liberation faster than any breathing trick or psychological analysis this or any 'external' or internal communion has in store for you. Beckon the Goddess to show you more; forget not to leave a breadcrumb for the God. But let not the Mind doddle on concepts, isms, even words, beliefs, morals. A pretty sentence is an angel of Light is a rose by any other name. He might convince you otherwise, but you'll still be none the wiser, having been convinced by another's Will to do something, whatever the action. The True Guru is You.

Forget about this entity: If you so desire, maybe wish It an Om Mani Padme Hum or some other blanket prayer that will eventually lead to its ultimate Liberation, and be on your Way with nary a second glance.

And to yourself, Om mani padme hum.

J.G.

>>Simply believe nothing that you have not of your own experience.

ah, but if someone offers you a free trip to the moon, do you go? - even if there is no air? - experience is experience, and i can see how experience must be measured against some milestone that you set yourself

i don't want to 'pen myself in' though, as this 'chart that is me' could be used to target forces (think voodoo doll)? - especially since this creature is more hecate than it is diana, and the dark is always open to mistrust

still i don't want to throw away what may be a dakini spirit wanting to tango


>>Forget about this entity

nah, i will never forget a life-form, regardless if it is invisible or not, especially if it comes up and says hello - i either talk to them or eat them