Black Holes And Dimensional Gateways, A thought Options

After making a post in the thread about Demon Lovers, I was thinking about the process by which entities cross over and meet us in this plane. I thought the following, in regards to the 'rules' of this plane not applying beyond:

Assumption: The rules of this plane do not apply to the realms beyond.
Query: Is there such a place in our plane where this already occurs?
Answer: Yes.
Query: Where?
Answer: Black Holes: The laws of time, space, and physics break down.

I took that conclusion, and brought it further...

Query: Is it feasible to utilize a Black Hole as a means of linking this plane to the realms beyond?
Answer: By this logic, yes, but impractical.
Elaboration: Our bodies are tied to this plane in time and space. Should it be subjected to a breakdown of time-space, likewise, the physical existence would break down.
Query: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Lighten.gif) What about a localized time-space phenomenon?
Counter-Query: Such as?
Response: Not a break, but a bend in time-space. A gravity well, or thinning, of the veil of time-space.
Answer: If enough energy is supplied from the other end, a feasible a link might be established. At the very least, an irregularity may even act as a beacon, as localized time-space phenomenon do not naturally occur within Earth's gravity field.

This brought on another point: We live in the distortion relative to Earth's field. To us, this is -normal-. But, if I could hypothetically bend space and time just slightly relative to Earth's gravity, perhaps in an oscillatory fashion, it seems feasible to me that an inter-dimensional beacon can be established by which entities may be attracted to us. Think dipping a bobber in a lake, to cause ripples. Not too big, but anyone looking will notice.

My thoughts then turned to Tesla's experiments, which revolved around Electromagnetism. Would a properly contained EM (Electromagnetic) flux apparatus be able to cause time-space fluctuations? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif) Does such a device exist? The only technology capable of it, that conventional science acknowledges, are multi-million dollar accellerator labs!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/greedy.gif)

Now, after a few minutes of pausing to think after that last paragraph, I liken the idea similar to the thumper devices used in Dune to attract the sandworms.

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I have been experimenting with electromagnetic field. i Used to think they could create a larger force field around us and increase our esp. biofeedback.

I think quartz crystals act as a energy amplifier. Ive looked into orgone generators and radionics
I used to think that this could be a telekinesis amplifier LOL

I have been experimenting with electromagnetic field. i Used to think they could create a larger force field around us and increase our esp. biofeedback.

I think quartz crystals act as a energy amplifier. Ive looked into orgone generators and radionics
I used to think that this could be a telekinesis amplifier LOL

To answer a part of your response, Quartz Crystals do have an energy potential, but it is released via piezolectric effect. That, and energy can be stored in it's lattice. Otherwise:
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It does not answer my question or address my issue in the least. I will quote my question once more.

1) Would a properly contained EM (Electromagnetic) flux apparatus be able to cause time-space fluctuations/a localized time-dilation phenomenon?
(Follow-up, 2) Does such a device exist?

This post has been edited by Xenomancer: Oct 12 2009, 10:54 AM

>>Would a properly contained EM (Electromagnetic) flux apparatus be able to cause time-space fluctuations/a localized time-dilation phenomenon?

oh ya, i called it a natural gate, made from tightly-rotating telluric energy, like an upside-down tornado, and yes usually associated with underground quartz or granite that contains quartz or tourmaline, but its not so much a time dilation thing though - you can do time dilation yourself you know, just speed yourself up or down with respect to the rest of the world and monitor the effect from the point of view of the rest of the world - unfortunately that is much easier than passing though a gate

as far as a natural gate goes, it is simply a tightly-rotating torsion field, perhaps magnetic, perhaps gravitic, perhaps all or only some of each - think a bundle of straws in a microwave where the walls of the straws begin to melt and ooze and one's energy could slip into another straw from this one

a lot of my research has been into these natural gates - poking and prodding them and seeing what happens, and yes it was stupid and dangerous but i was clueless and young - i wrote a how-to that pretty much said you can't easily take your physical body (even the tibetan monks who achieve rainbow body leave behind hair and fingernails when they die in enlightenment as these have no nerve endings to burn them up), and that the gates are still here and they still work, and that you must 'know yourself within and without' or you'll just drag yourself back here with any attachment to the physical 'here', and that you must know your destination either by remote viewing it or memory and point the gate to the proper space/time via tight thought-control or no telling where you will end up, and if you get all that right and go through, you will probably be forced back here eventually as this is the time and place you volunteered to come into when you chose to be born

nebuchadnezzar had such an artificial gate, he built it of gold, but no matter what he tried, singing, clapping, dancing, shouting, he could not get it to work, so he went to three of the captured hebrew slaves he had laying around and dan-iel led shem-ash, mes(h)-ash and abed-nebo to put on their protective hats and protective coats and they breathed in the 'that which makes go far into the universe' and then they entered the manufactured torsion field of the gate, and there were suddenly four within the gate not three, and the fourth was nebo, from which nebo-chad-nezzar took his name, though some say nebo was more like quetzacotl than the great lord nebo, then nebo was gone, and the three staggered out to daniel and told him the words of lord nebo

of course sadam hussain thought himself the reincarnated nebuchadnezzar, and had rebuilt babylon as it was remembered to be, and he filled his libraries with ancient knowledge, and started buying a bunch of gold, then...oops, the regime is toppled and the libraries are ransacked and the gold just disappears

now, the somewhat discredited bob lazar, supposedly an area 51 or 52 employee, reportedly said that such a device exists, and that he fell through it while working on it one day, and he popped right back in next to it for some odd reason or other (smirk and nod, if true, knowing the above about how the natural gates work)

imohmfo of course,

es

p,s, there is no escape from this dying planet, period

This post has been edited by esoterica: Oct 12 2009, 01:18 PM

oh ya, i called it a natural gate, made from tightly-rotating telluric energy, like an upside-down tornado, and yes usually associated with underground quartz or granite that contains quartz or
tourmaline,

Hello? Left field? What does a tightly rotating energy vortex have to do with quartz or granite?

but its not so much a time dilation thing though - you can do time dilation yourself you know, just speed yourself up or down with respect to the rest of the world and monitor the effect from the point of view of the rest of the world

Via use of neuromancy - Augmentation of the right mix of neurotransmitters and neurotoxins. That changes the perception, yes, but this isn't what I was talking about.

- unfortunately that is much easier than passing though a gate

I never said anything about me passing through a gate.

as far as a natural gate goes,

The what?

it is simply a tightly-rotating torsion field, perhaps magnetic, perhaps gravitic, perhaps all or only some of each

Uhm....I was talking strictly from a conjectural stance of the use of Electromagnetism. Not gravitic, not nuclear... ElectroMagnetic.

- think a bundle of straws in a microwave where the walls of the straws begin to melt and ooze and one's energy could slip into another straw from this one

I have the visual, but why did you use this one? Are you tying it to the prior concept?

a lot of my research has been into these natural gates - poking and prodding them and seeing what happens,

And what did the poking and prodding protocols call for?

and yes it was stupid and dangerous but i was clueless and young - i wrote a how-to that pretty much said you can't easily take your physical body (even the tibetan monks who achieve rainbow body leave behind hair and fingernails when they die in enlightenment as these have no nerve endings to burn them up),

An amazing feat, I'm sure. Tibetan monks are amazing, but what does this have to do with what I am talking about?

and that the gates are still here and they still work, and that you must 'know yourself within and without' or you'll just drag yourself back here with any attachment to the physical 'here', and that you must know your destination either by remote viewing it or memory and point the gate to the proper space/time via tight thought-control or no telling where you will end up, and if you get all that right and go through, you will probably be forced back here eventually as this is the time and place you volunteered to come into when you chose to be born

Thought controlled travel? Possibly. Space, Time, and Thought are closely correlated when viewed on a quantum level. Deep enough, they are indistinguishable.

nebuchadnezzar had such an artificial gate, he built it of gold, but no matter what he tried, singing, clapping, dancing, shouting, he could not get it to work, so he went to three of the captured hebrew slaves he had laying around and dan-iel led shem-ash, mes(h)-ash and abed-nebo to put on their protective hats and protective coats and they breathed in the 'that which makes go far into the universe' and then they entered the manufactured torsion field of the gate, and there were suddenly four within the gate not three, and the fourth was nebo, from which nebo-chad-nezzar took his name, though some say nebo was more like quetzacotl than the great lord nebo, then nebo was gone, and the three staggered out to daniel and told him the words of lord nebo

Your point?

of course sadam hussain thought himself the reincarnated nebuchadnezzar, and had rebuilt babylon as it was remembered to be, and he filled his libraries with ancient knowledge, and started buying a bunch of gold, then...oops, the regime is toppled and the libraries are ransacked and the gold just disappears

Let's not drag mundane politics into this... please. This isn't fight club.

now, the somewhat discredited bob lazar, supposedly an area 51 or 52 employee, reportedly said that such a device exists, and that he fell through it while working on it one day, and he popped right back in next to it for some odd reason or other (smirk and nod, if true, knowing the above about how the natural gates work)

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imohmfo of course,

es

p,s, there is no escape from this dying planet, period

Thank you for the non-sequiteur doomsay.

I was talking about making something of a beacon, if you were paying attention!!

Anyone ELSE want to answer my question?

In reply to the original post:

It's an interesting idea, and train of thought... hmmm. It's difficult for me to understand the need to solicit the attention of entities. Even as a small child I had more entity interaction than I ever wanted. My childhood was somewhat terrorized by entities of unsavory disposition. actually, they've been around my whole life. the first time I've had any sort of reprieve from their constant presence has been in the last several years... which is a different conversation unto itself really.

but anyway, assuming one wanted to make contact with entities... I would try a couple things before bending space & time. Like building up a very high level of personal energy, and radiating it freely, so as to be a very obvious sort of beacon in that way. Likewise, if you resonate with an entity (in either a sympathetic or complimentary fashion), then you'll bring their existence into a closer relationship with yours (location is not really an issue, its somewhat abstract for entities).

what you describe almost seems more like a sort of etheric SETI program. I'd be curious to see what results it would get.
I am also curious about how exactly you would you go about bending space/time?

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Now, you, Kath.

what you describe almost seems more like a sort of etheric SETI program. I'd be curious to see what results it would get.
I am also curious about how exactly you would you go about bending space/time?

Thank you for responding! Yes, I would compare it similar to an etheric SETI program. I am just as curious, because that's why I asked at the bottom of the opening: Is it possible to cause temporal distortion with a localized EM flux device? I asked this in particular because I know Tesla did experiments with such, and I know other scientists also toyed with Electro-Magnetic phenomenon. I just don't remember who, when, or what. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

*SIGH*
I've had to delete 4 posts that were off-topic (and this from the King of Digression!)
It appears that we all need a chill pill(s) and a nap!
I usually extoll the virtues of the membership here but this backbiting is totally senseless!
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I'm having some serious ideas as to the source of this disturbance and will pay close attention to ALL factors involved!
Cogitate upon that.
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