Theory Of Everything, Yeah i's out there Options

Hopefully someone will understand what I am saying (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)

It is understanding the universe, the ancient wisdom of the ancients that they put in plain sight....for us, for our time....they knew the darkness was coming and they knew the light was going to return.

This is what they wanted us to know.

There are two great dualities in the universe.

The entire universe is this great duality and a balance of it, that is why it is expanding.

So what does this mean?

IT means everything.

IT is the universal law at the smallest level all the way up to the grandest.

IT is the law of nature, the laws of physics, IT is the universal nature, the nature of the universe.

IT is the fibronacci sequence.

What is the fibronacci sequence?

IT is growth, balance and evolution.

It is the universal constant....because it is everywhere in nature, in the cosmos, in mathematics, and in man.

The reason the universe has been so hard for rational beings to figure out is because it isn't entirely rational. It is a combination of rational and irrational...it is the balance between the two. Bbalance is synthesis of the dualities.

If a square represents the rational constant of the universe.
and if Pi (circle) represents the irrational constant of the universe.
Then both of them together (square + circle) = the universal constant (spiral)

Therefore this is the universal theory:

SQUARE + CIRCLE = SPIRAL

or in other words

Rationality + Irrationality = Universe

or

Dark + Light = Twilight

or

LEft + Right = Middle

We know what Pi is equal to 3.1415926535897...

We also know what fibronacci sequence is equal to = 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55...

Fibronacci is in Pi.

Is the rational constant integers? 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13...
I'm not sure about that one but I can see the fibronacci sequence in PI and if we know both Pi and fibronacci we should be able to verify the rational constant.

Please do not resist, try and understand, try and offer help, we need to save our world, save our selves before the universe corrects, us and it will if we do not correct ourselves, it is how nature works, it does not tolerate things out of balance for long, and we are out of balance, our species, our planet.

The Egyptians knew this, it is their greatest knowledge it is symbolized everywhere, it is what they wanted us to figure out with symbols. Pi is the sun, squares are our rational thinking, they made it so the sun would merge with the square creating the pyramid. The pyramid is one way of representing Fibronacci sequence. They had the sun rise in the archways of temples that we use to symbolize Pi.

Kundalini is represented as two serpents, the sun and the moon (dualities) they meet at the top to create, synthesis. That is what the universe is it is synthesis, it is creation, a combination of the two polarities combine to form something new. Rational thought and irrational thought create genius.

This is what the great work wanted us to know......to remember.

There is more.

The trinity.

IT is the duality (i.e. light and dark)
plus their synthesis (twilight)

Light + Dark = Twilight

That is the Holy trinity, but not just Light and dark, but for all things.

Positive + negative = neutral

Creation + Destruction = evolution

Left + Right = middle

it is the universal equation.

Dualities (A+B) = Synthesis ©

A + B = C

Spiritually
This is represented as Yin + Yang = Oneness
IT is how we become one.

Einstein wanted to find god with a universal theory, but the harder he tried, the farther he moved from it. When we have balance inside, the middle path we find god, we find the oneness, we find it in simplicity.

IT means everything.

IT is the universal law at the smallest level all the way up to the grandest.

IT is the law of nature, the laws of physics, IT is the universal nature, the nature of the universe.

IT is the fibronacci sequence.

What is the fibronacci sequence?

IT is growth, balance and evolution.

It is the universal constant....because it is everywhere in nature, in the cosmos, in mathematics, and in man.

IT lives in sewers and feeds on young children.


I think you are over simplifying things. The thing about mathematics is: It was a system created by man to make understanding things easier. If it fits the structure of what is already there then it's "correct" and if it doesn't it isn't.

The reason the universe has been so hard for rational beings to figure out is because it isn't entirely rational.

Then why would you try explaining it in a rational way? (IE with Pi and intergers etc)


and I mean sure, opposites SEEM logical (creation/destruction) (black/white) but the only reason they are considered "opposite" is because that is the way we are brought up and conditioned to think.

In reality WE aren't aren't all that rational. Humankind is irrational and mysterious and THAT is why living in an irrational and mysterious universe makes sense.

This post has been edited by Whisperling: Mar 2 2010, 11:48 PM

Then why would you try explaining it in a rational way? (IE with Pi and intergers etc)
and I mean sure, opposites SEEM logical (creation/destruction) (black/white) but the only reason they are considered "opposite" is because that is the way we are brought up and conditioned to think.

In reality WE aren't aren't all that rational. Humankind is irrational and mysterious and THAT is why living in an irrational and mysterious universe makes sense.

Hi Whisperling....It's nice to see you have an open mind.

Pi is an irrational number, it goes on forever, it is uncertain, it will never be known.

Integers are rational, they are certain, they are known.

It is this combination of certainty and uncertainty that is our universe.

In biology, during meiosis there is randomness, it is what creates variety, mutations, unpredictable results....it is the irrational part of life. The double helix is our fibronacci.

I revised the equation a little bit. There are four fundamental shifts or states of matter that have to be taken into account. Solid, liquid, gas and plasma.

2A+2B=C

If you look at a sine wave form, which is a fibronacci as well, but with 4 inflection points. 2 positives and 2 negatives.

IT is the spiral but stretched out over time.

I will have to come back and post a picture of what I am talking about, but will describe it.

If you combine circle and square you get the sine wave, There are four course changes or inflection points which keeps the wave form expanding. These 4 course changes are Fire, water, air and earth.... 2 positive and 2 negative.....2 rational and 2 irrational.

We are at a course change right now going from the age of pisces which is feminine, circular part of wave form, irrational to aquarius which is linear, rational, the straight line part. This happens at all levels from the smallest to the largest.

This is my theory in the simplest of forms.

2A + 2B = C

Where A and B represent the dualities of our universe and C is the synthesis of these balanced dualities. A and B have to be of equal amounts, there has to be balance for synthesis to be achieved.

The universe is randomness with structure.

This might be explained better with symbols.

Circle + Square = Spiral

Circle is Pi, irrational number, it is positives, it is randomness, uncertainty.
Square is the opposite, it is linear, negatives, predictable, integers.
Spiral is the synthesis of the dualities, it is the fibronacci sequence, it is sustained growth, universal expansion, consists of both the circle and the square.

There are 4 fundamental elements, 2 of them are positive and 2 of them are negative. The sine wave is a fibronacci sequence over time. IT has four inflection points or four course changes, these are the four building blocks, 2 negative inflection points and 2 positive ones. These course changes is what causes the wave to expand....our universe to expand. Without these four fundamental elements sustained growth would not be possible, there would be no balance, the spiral would revert to circle or square (lines).

This is occuring at every level in our universe from the smallest of the small to the grandest of grand....it is in all aspects of our physical universe. It is in us, our DNA is a fibronacci sequence with four building elements, adenine, thymine, guanine, cytosine.

2A + 2B = C Where C is growth

2A - 2B = 0 No growth

-2A + 2B = -C

This law of sustained growth encompasses all things in this universe, even us, the animals, trees, cosmos, molecules...everything you see in nature because it is nature.

The equation works for protons and electrons to create elements. IT is synthesis of the Protons and electrons to form neutrons. They don't cancel each other out they form something new.

2(1) + 2(1) = hydrogen H2
2(2) + 2(2) = helium 2 protons, 2 electrons and 2 neutrons
each neutron is synthesised from a proton and electron.
2(3) + 2(3) = lithium 3 protons, 3 electrons, and 3 neutrons

wormholes, string theory are all fibronacci sequences, they are all spirals, the synthesis of circle and square. Fractals, Pyramids they are all fibronacci sequences.

The randomness in meiosis is crucial for species survival, that randomness happens at the genetic level and is directly linked to evolution. The mutations are built in because we are randomness with structure, just like the universe.

There are many levels up and down in scale and they are all connected in a great web.


4 fundamental elements, 4 dimensions, 4 states of matter.

these 4 limits can be re-arranged to produce different spirals. Some are growing, some stay the same and some are contracting.

Gravity is curved space, it is cone shaped.

The sphere of the planet is one of the circles of the cone, then it goes linear outward to a small circlular point (roughly speaking). The cone is fibronacci. The spiral decreases over distance, the effects of gravity decrease over distance. This means the effect © is negative, instead of expansion, it is attraction.

-2 Circles + 2 Squares = -C

The four elements are rearranged to make the start of the equation negative, resulting in a negative spiral.

Pass the joint scoobs you're hogging it.

Theory of everything.
http://www.grandunifiedtheory.org.il/

-2A + 2B = -C

This statement would only be true if the positive interger was smaller than the negative interger.

eg:

-(2x3) + (2x2) = -C

-6 + 4 = -2

C= -2

With the equasion you presented it is lacking. It causes the viewer to have to plug in ideas until they "fit" your synopsis which would then be deemed correct. This all falls back to mathematics and the closed and rational structure of it.

-2A + 2B = -C

This statement would only be true if the positive interger was smaller than the negative interger.

eg:

-(2x3) + (2x2) = -C

-6 + 4 = -2

C= -2

With the equasion you presented it is lacking. It causes the viewer to have to plug in ideas until they "fit" your synopsis which would then be deemed correct. This all falls back to mathematics and the closed and rational structure of it.

Whisperling, it is a balance of the dualities, A+B cannot be 3 and 2, the extra +1 on the 3 won't be involved in the synthesis. This isn't a new model, it is known for chemical synthesis, but it doesn't just stop at protons and electrons, it applies to our DNA, light, universe, string theory, economics, government, everything. IT is a model of sustained growth. The pentagram represents this concept beautifully, it itself is a fibronacci sequence and it represents 4 elements coming together to form a new one. IT also implies that for everyhing you see, there is an opposite and there are also two other directions you can't see at all.
Example, you are walking down a path and reach a crossroads. You can see the path in front and you know the path behind, but you can't see the other two paths without turning your head. See one direction is positive growth (where you are headed), the other direction is negative growth (where you've been) and the other two are 0 growth. Turning your head is like changing your perspective changing your relativity. This means, in our universe, we can see behind and ahead, but cannot see what is happening at the sides, unless we somehow change our perspective, figure out how to look sideways, but when we do that, we lose our initial directions.


Thanks for the link Soror, I'm going to pick his brain a little.

Flawed argument.

Flawed argument.

That isn't argument, that is opinion. The least you could do is provide a reason for your statement.

I might have some trouble articulating what I see, But it's there.

The Peruvian glyphs on the desert are mainly of animals, but there is also a spiral among them. Why?

The largest pyramids of Egypt weren't built for tombs, they have a larger meaning to them. Why?

What is it about a Pentagram that makes it special, that it is passed along through the ages?

I think these things are all related, I think it was all meant as messages, as symbols for communication with the future civilizations.

Why so much effort?

I think they knew the cycle of civilization, they knew their wisdom will be lost without a major time resistant effort.

The American founding fathers knew some of this wisdom, they tried to put in checks and balances into the government, to try and prevent the natural cycle of creation and destruction.

Greetings!
(Thanks, btw, for the age thing...)
I have a similar discussion with a friend of mine who is a scientist working for SUNY.
(not that that is particularily meaningful here...)
But I loathe dualities. (tough crap old man) But appears to me in simple terms that Set theory should tell you
a few things. A+B=C...No duality there. C isn't necessarily a 'balance' of the two, it is merely the partial combination of the two. This would imply a fourth state. And then, from there a fifth, etc.
A: one
B: two
C: three
D: A+B+C
E:A+B+C+D

Did I miss the point?

And...fractals are not static.
5 is found represented in many different symbols...(the inner seed enclosures of an apple)
Spirals= movement.
People appear to be hung up on duality. Trinity is actually the next logical 'static' shape.
Structurally it is sound.
*sigh* When you reduce life to integers I get lost...I'm not very mathematical of mind yet I do love geometry.
The Egyptians were one of the first 'known' users of geometry to build their temples, etc., yet the monoliths were erected before the pyramids
and capture the solar cycles pretty damned closely...over thousands of years.
Back to 'square' one...what is it you are looking for? The unseen factor, the underlying glue?
Maybe if you 'define' your search you can find its signature...? (I really don't know, forgive me).

Could any theory of everything really be complete? I'm not huge fan of Monism. One is one, and two is also one, if divided into it's constituent parts, etc. “Every number is infinite – there is no difference.” As much as "All is One", All is two, All is Three, Etc...

As I began reading this thread, Scoobs, I immediately thought of "The Canon" by William Stirling. "The Canon", published in 1897, is "An Exposition of the Pagan Mystery Perpuated in the Cabala as the Rule of All the Arts". Stirling shows the relationship of the numerology present in ancient Greek and Hebrew religious texts to the motion and size of heavenly bodies. Great book!

One idea cogent to the theory of "Everything" that interests me, even with my limited math knowledge, is the standing spherical wave structure of matter. I'm not a very clever student of mathematics and I'm not pretending to understand this better than I do, hence I quote:

...matter is formed from the spherical standing wave motions of Space....matter is a wave structure of Space. This is why all matter vibrates and has a resonant frequency.

Another interesting idea, which once again I don't pretend to understand very well, is "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" by Antony Garrett Lisi. The title is a pun, so it's not really that simple; the theory is purported to reconcile particle physics with Einsteins theory of relativity. A real "Theory of Everything" should allow one to calculate the mass of particles, and I don't think Lisi's equation does that, however as I'm quite ignorant when it comes to higher mathematics I'm not qualified to comment on the veracity of the theory. The 248 dimensional shape which Lisi uses to describe his theory certainly is intriguing:

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This post has been edited by seven171seven: Mar 15 2010, 01:03 AM

"What am I looking for?"

Good question, Understanding would be the answer, to understand the nature of the universe.

2A + 2B = C or circle + square = spiral

represents this. C is synthesis, it is not just combination, it is something new from the two dualities. IT is how they interact with each other to produce growth, life.

If you look at a spiral, if you zoom right in what do you see? You will see very small corrections, alternating, vertical and horizontal, and if you zoom out it is all smooth. That is the same with our universe, we can go up levels and down levels, zoom in and zoom out.

IT probably is not a great representation, but it makes the most sense to me. It explains how the process of destruction and creation come together to produce something from the two, it produces direction, growth, balance. Nature is all about balance, a web of balance. If one piece of the web goes out of balance it causes the other parts to be out of balance. Remove a predator from a system and the prey will explode in population till it crashes from the lack of resources (food depletion), the end of the spiral.

Human beings can be divided up into the three categories, positives, negatives and neutrals, A, B and C. What happens when a group of positives get together? They attract negatives. And if they are able to keep the negatives out for a while, it will attract even more negatives until there is balance. History is full of this cycle. We cannot escape dualities, because inside us all is the same dualities we see outside us.

This is the "trinity" it is A, B and C. The rest is levels, each duality can be broken down into more dualities on different levels. C can be part of another duality on a larger scale. Up and down in scale but the basic concept is always there, balance of dualities. When there isn't balance anymore there isn't growth, the system crashes.

This applies to Economics with the boom and bust cycle, the larger the boom the greater the bust, but if you regulate it with limits and make the booms and busts smaller, you can still have balance and growth. Manipulating the system to try and get a bigger boom will only result in a bigger bust, possibly destroying the system all together.

Seven - I will have to pick up a copy of "the canon", sounds like an interesting read.

This is super interesting~

In a sense, I feel you're touching upon this really interesting idea that I've had that came out through this: rationality is based in 'irrationality."

Hmmm....Thanks Scoobs for the explanation...I'll let my mind try to wrap around that for awhile. At first, my reaction was "let's to simplistic.." but then, that depends on the 'set' of the arena... Again, thank you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
My soggy brains need to get some fresh air!

This is the pythagoran view of it:

In our terms unity , the Absolute or unpolarised energy , in
becoming conscious of itself , creates polarised energy. One
becomes simultaneously Two and Three .
Two, regarded by itself, is divisive by nature. Two represents
the principle of multiplicity ; Two , unchecked , is the call to
chaos. Two is the Fall .
But Two is reconciled to unity , included within unity , by
the simultaneous creation of Three. Three represents the principle
of reconciliation, of relationship.

Now switch 1,2 and 3 with C, B and A.

Scoobs, I'm curious as to what you think of the golden ratio and golden spirals, and how they relate to your own theory. Also, have you heard of Wilhelm Reich? His theories on "Cosmic Orgone Energy" mention spirals quite a bit. Reich was very confident in his own "Theory of Everything", he was sure he had discovered the "Primordial Energy of the Universe" and he called it "Orgone Energy". His "Ether, God and Devil and Cosmic Superimposition" is a good read.

Scoobs,
This may or may not briefly touch on your subject......
I'm not a mathematician but have always held a profound 'feeling' for geometry and geometric 'shapes'. Of course this doesn't say diddly-squat to what you were saying except that maybe...
anyway, here is a fascinating link: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt...ADIWClAfur62RAQ

I have always maintained there is/was a reason why the 'Triangle' in evocation is/was used. I've had a number of rather profound subjective states in which I have dealt with this 'shape'. For the most part, I hope you find it entertaining or even inspirational...I certainly do! I've created for my work in physical evocation a working model of the tetrahedron...it has brought me places/results that are superlative! Maybe you can get more out of it than an addle-pated soggy brained old man...*grin* I'm sure that you can! If this is too digressive to your thread, please notify me and I will make it go away! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)

Apologies for the late reply.

The tetrahedron or triangle in 2D is an interesting figure. It looks like it is just straight lines, but it is not, for a right triangle you have vertical and horizontal, but the diagonal that connects them is actually a curve. I know it's a curve because it's value is irrational (square root of 2) just like Pi and Phi. Thus, the triangle is a combination of irrational and rational numbers, it is complex, it is "C" just like a light wave, just like spirals. Curves are different from straight lines, they are affected by a point that is outside the line, but still has an invisible effect creating the curve.

Our universe is made up of lines and curves, imaginary and real, light and dark, order and chaos, known and unknown. IT is the great duality, which comes together on many many levels in unity. Evolution is the spiral, the unity we are all moving towards, "the oneness"...till we hit it then we move towards duality again, then towards oneness again. Up and down is the cycle, just like the wave of light.

This isn't new information by any means, but it is new to me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Laie_58.gif)