Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
 Sacrifice To Power Spells
Vilhjalmr
post Feb 8 2010, 12:36 AM
Post #1


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 181
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Medrengard
Reputation: 2 pts




I'm wondering if anyone could explain to me a little more of the theory behind a sacrifice of some sort (not necessarily living, mind you) powering or empowering a working. I've encountered the concept a lot, but sacrifice as I understood it involved giving something to (the) god(s); can its energy be harnessed? Indeed, is there energy to harness?

Any and all thoughts welcome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


--------------------
Für Wodin!

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


Moonchilde
post Feb 14 2010, 12:17 PM
Post #2


Initiate
Group Icon
Posts: 9
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




QUOTE(Vilhjalmr @ Feb 8 2010, 01:36 AM) *

I'm wondering if anyone could explain to me a little more of the theory behind a sacrifice of some sort (not necessarily living, mind you) powering or empowering a working. I've encountered the concept a lot, but sacrifice as I understood it involved giving something to (the) god(s); can its energy be harnessed? Indeed, is there energy to harness?

Any and all thoughts welcome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


In physics, we create a lower entropy subsystem (in say, drawing a circle) by increasing the entropy of the overall system. One could say that sacrifices are analogous to creating the possibility to create your entropic reversion effects (magick) by creating the reaction (increase of overall System entropy) first. Of course sacrifice is only one method.

namaste,

moonchilde


--------------------
The present post is very long, simply because I had no leisure to make it shorter. (adapted from) Blaise Pascal

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Goibniu
post Feb 14 2010, 09:33 PM
Post #3


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 407
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Canada
Reputation: 10 pts




Frater U.D. says:
In the spirit model magic is seen as being effected by these entities who are usually invisible, at least to the average punter, and it is
the shaman's or magician's task to make them put his will into effect. This may be done by prayer, by barter, by cajoling or even -
vide medieval demon magic - by the application of magical force, threats and pressure.

Sacrifice or making offerings to a spirit or deity is something I can understand. It is barter or bribing the spirit. I have known people who prayed to saints and asked that if the desired outcome was successful (eg. their wife survives the operation) they would quit smoking or drinking or something of that sort. I suppose that this is an attempt to placate the saint.

I don't think that sacrifice works unless there is someone to sacrifice to. The exception is Frater U.D.'s Energy Model for magic. You may raise energy to power up the spell or ritual. For example, using sex magic to raise energy for a certain purpose. But the energy is used by the spell. It isn't sacrificed in the normal meaning of the term.

That's what occurs to me off the top of my head anyhow.


--------------------
Don't worry. It'll only seem kinky the first time.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Closed
Topic Notes
Reply to this topicStart new topic

Collapse

Similar Topics

Topic Title Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
Burning Self-sacrifice 1 Slayden 1,143 Aug 15 2007, 05:33 PM
Last post by: Acid09
The Eating Of The Sacrifice 3 esoterica 1,478 Feb 14 2007, 12:02 PM
Last post by: Mezu

1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 22nd November 2024 - 12:35 PM