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 Creating An Entity, For the sole purpose of companionship?
JHunt609
post Mar 11 2010, 05:57 PM
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I've been reading David Cunningham's Creating Magickal Entities. He says that you should not create or summon an entity without a solid purpose, such as to obtain wealth, happiness, information, etc.

So my question is: would it be justifiable to create or summon an entity just to keep me company? I don't want an entity for just one task and then have it disappear, I would like companionship.

On a related note, can one create or summon a general purpose entity, almost like a familiar? That way, I could hang on to that one entity, and call upon it when needed?

Also, I'd like to hear some of your entity experiences. ^^

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post Mar 11 2010, 09:13 PM
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Greetings JHunt609!
*sigh* Loneliness is a bitch (pardon me to all female canines)...Look...you can create an 'entity'/elementary/servitor/cognizant thoughtform/etc. anytime. It is not considered good form or 'smart' to do this without a specific purpose....for any number of reasons. Without purpose a thoughtform entity is merely just that, a nebulous embodied thought. Most of the time they vanish or dissolve away when you lose interest or forget them. (a powerful but subtle lesson this...apply it to gods) That is if you are even successful in creating one. All of us have the ability to create. Some are better at it than others. Don't fret. All of us, also, create 'entities' all the time through repetative thought and/or habit. The close personal astral space surrounding you is littered with these disjointed 'entities'. Another thing to consider in creating these entities is that without a definative purpose but a viable energy source, these thoughtforms will become mini versions of you, or whatever strong personality traits which were foremost in your thoughts at/during the creation process. Alot of 'poltergeist' phenomena are created in this fashion! When I was a teenager and my *gasp* hormones were playing a tune, I had books flying around my room and a host of electro-magnetic phenomena occuring 'spontaneously'...it was a real picnic (not)! Everyone thought my house was haunted, it was!, by ME!!! Franz Bardon in his book Initiation Into Hermetics (available in our Library) has a great section dealing with these 'entities'! I haven't read Cunningham's book so I can't comment on its content. Having a companion is a needed thing for most people. Having a living human friend is important. This isn't always an option. You can create an 'entity' to travel the world as a set of eyes/ears/etc. but remember this...the entity that you create can never become 'greater' in scope of ability/power than you. It's somewhat self-correcting. As you grow and develop you can modify/update your entity. You will always be connected. Yes...there are times when this connection can be severed but then, the entity either dies or slowly degrades into a parasitical thing. One of the so-called rules of servitor creation is to give it a purpose and a definative life-span. Yes there are exceptions to the 'rules'! Hell, half of magic is doing what others tell you is impossible! Just use your head! (sorry, that was an oblique pun)*grin* When creating these little guys its best to keep it simple! A very interesting 'fictional' book to read is "Moonchild" by Aleister Crowley. It has a chapter in the beginning of the book that touches upon such creatures. In the book he called this one 'the Watcher in the Garden'. The protagonist, Simon Iff was said to have neutralized the watcher by overriding the creater of the watcher by establishing a 'link' with it and then he ATE it! The watchers creator suffered as part of his energy was subsumed by Iff! The connection is there!!! Anyhow...I've rambled on too long. My advice is to find a human friend to pal around with and create a servitor if you need a specific task done! There are others here that have made 'love' servitors. I, myself, do not care for this...but to each their own! Good journey! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Mar 11 2010, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(bym @ Mar 11 2010, 10:13 PM) *

Greetings JHunt609!
*sigh* Loneliness is a bitch (pardon me to all female canines)...Look...you can create an 'entity'/elementary/servitor/cognizant thoughtform/etc. anytime. It is not considered good form or 'smart' to do this without a specific purpose....for any number of reasons. Without purpose a thoughtform entity is merely just that, a nebulous embodied thought. Most of the time they vanish or dissolve away when you lose interest or forget them. (a powerful but subtle lesson this...apply it to gods) That is if you are even successful in creating one. All of us have the ability to create. Some are better at it than others. Don't fret. All of us, also, create 'entities' all the time through repetative thought and/or habit. The close personal astral space surrounding you is littered with these disjointed 'entities'. Another thing to consider in creating these entities is that without a definative purpose but a viable energy source, these thoughtforms will become mini versions of you, or whatever strong personality traits which were foremost in your thoughts at/during the creation process. Alot of 'poltergeist' phenomena are created in this fashion! When I was a teenager and my *gasp* hormones were playing a tune, I had books flying around my room and a host of electro-magnetic phenomena occuring 'spontaneously'...it was a real picnic (not)! Everyone thought my house was haunted, it was!, by ME!!! Franz Bardon in his book Initiation Into Hermetics (available in our Library) has a great section dealing with these 'entities'! I haven't read Cunningham's book so I can't comment on its content. Having a companion is a needed thing for most people. Having a living human friend is important. This isn't always an option. You can create an 'entity' to travel the world as a set of eyes/ears/etc. but remember this...the entity that you create can never become 'greater' in scope of ability/power than you. It's somewhat self-correcting. As you grow and develop you can modify/update your entity. You will always be connected. Yes...there are times when this connection can be severed but then, the entity either dies or slowly degrades into a parasitical thing. One of the so-called rules of servitor creation is to give it a purpose and a definative life-span. Yes there are exceptions to the 'rules'! Hell, half of magic is doing what others tell you is impossible! Just use your head! (sorry, that was an oblique pun)*grin* When creating these little guys its best to keep it simple! A very interesting 'fictional' book to read is "Moonchild" by Aleister Crowley. It has a chapter in the beginning of the book that touches upon such creatures. In the book he called this one 'the Watcher in the Garden'. The protagonist, Simon Iff was said to have neutralized the watcher by overriding the creater of the watcher by establishing a 'link' with it and then he ATE it! The watchers creator suffered as part of his energy was subsumed by Iff! The connection is there!!! Anyhow...I've rambled on too long. My advice is to find a human friend to pal around with and create a servitor if you need a specific task done! There are others here that have made 'love' servitors. I, myself, do not care for this...but to each their own! Good journey! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Thanks for the feedback ^^

I do understand what you're saying. Personally, I've always had a problem with closure and such, and I guess I was hoping I could establish some sort of personal relationship with an entity without having to set it free afterwards. That must sound pathetic, but I'm really quite the sociophobe.

I continued to read a bit after I made my first post, and Cunningham goes on to say that some people choose to keep the same entity around (in their housing, I assume) after they've completed the task in case they needed the task repeated in the future. What are your thoughts on this?

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post Mar 11 2010, 10:48 PM
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I deviate abit from what Bardon recommends and 'allow' my elementaries to exist for awhile longer than just one performance of a specific task. You will find that many people also do this. But...(the infamous butt, er, but*grin*)
this shouldn't be done flippantly. I think the real gist of what Bardon was implying was that by giving such entities long life spans is that they can eventually go 'askew' from the original purpose (and, hence, the reason for not creating multi-purpose entities). We tend to get fond of our creations. If given the ability to garner energies from other sources they can (and will) start to act in ways which they were not created for. You end up with a semi-living creature, imprinted with some basic instructions but also imprinted with its creators ego. Left on its own these creatures are left to wander, either slowly fading or becoming nuisances and/or parasitic in action. I'm sure that my information about such creatures is not complete and I will gladly stand corrected. It's like getting a brand new puppy. It will bond with you, play with you, hopefully, become house'broken' but what happens when it is time for you to leave or to go away to school? Unless it knows how to feed itself or can be 'adopted' it will eventually die or become feral and die. Making an entity is alot like having a child. You must be responsible for it and take care of it. Just because it doesn't wear flesh doesn't mean that it doesn't need care. If you create it for a purpose and it completes its purpose then you can reabsorb it and its information. You can do this again and again. That is not what I have done with a few of my 'servitors'. I have one that I use as a librarian, it is actively seeking out books that I'm interested in and arranging my reality so that I may acquire the books easily. I'm very fond of it. I have no intention of dispersing it in the near furture...but it has already shown signs of age, sometimes making books disappear for odd times and then 'presenting' them to me at a time when I least expect it. Like a gift. It is trying to please me. Then I know that I haven't paid enough attention to it and I have to call it and reassert its purpose...the trouble with that is that you can actually fall in love with it, as you would a pet! Then...it becomes something more...
Now we enter a murky area of magic that has some very primal roots. The Naming of things! As I've said before, we are creators. With that walks responsibility. (or Not, then see what happens!*grimace*) Know thyself...and in knowing thyself remember As Above, So below and more cliches than you can choke down *laugh* What was the saying? To Will, To Dare, To Know and To be Silent........... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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