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fatherjhon
post Oct 14 2010, 02:33 AM
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I have run across a number of references that suggest that silk has occult properties including insulation from random energy and physic contamination, as well as being a sort of cloak of invisibility, preventing spirits from seeing you.

The bits about insulation from magick energies was found in a book about magick mirrors in which was stated that the mirror should always be covered with silk when not in use. A number of people have told me I should keep my tarot cards in silk, some with my yarrow stalks. The last item was in an ethnography of mongolian shamans. At one point I also think I stumbled across some text that claimed silk was the proper material for Chinese summoning cloths because the spirit could not cross the edges.

So my question is why is it that so many cultures and traditions use silk as some sort of barrier. Anyone have ideas, or perhaps used silk in some fashion?


As an aside, I have noticed that the mundane properties of on object often carry over to the magick properties (at least they are similar).

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post Oct 14 2010, 02:47 AM
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QUOTE(fatherjhon @ Oct 14 2010, 01:33 AM) *

As an aside, I have noticed that the mundane properties of on object often carry over to the magick properties (at least they are similar).


Yes, like the way baking soda and ammonia are used for spiritual cleansing. However, people may be incorrectly attributing magical properties to a substance, having gotten the idea from its mundane properties. As far as baking soda goes though, in my own experience it does seem to having spiritual cleansing properties. Not sure about silk.

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post Oct 14 2010, 01:15 PM
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Chinese summoning cloths because the spirit could not cross the edges.


Growing up in an Asian family and for a large part of my life, in Asia, I'm deeply skeptical of this. To us, if we summon things, there aren't such a thing as a barrier or limit, I was taught to just use sorcery to beat the crap out of the entity if it came across you.

Jade, perhaps is a perfect spiritual conductor, but so are most metals, and so are most rocks you pick up from the ground. Nothing is very special. Of course, if you douse it in magical paganism and the new agers bless it, it'll be of course special.

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post Oct 14 2010, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(kaboom13 @ Oct 14 2010, 03:15 PM) *

Growing up in an Asian family and for a large part of my life, in Asia, I'm deeply skeptical of this. To us, if we summon things, there aren't such a thing as a barrier or limit, I was taught to just use sorcery to beat the crap out of the entity if it came across you.


That was my impression too, but the ritual involved seemingly legitimate practices: writing a kanji for the spirit summoned on parchment placed on a silk cloth. I also think that there was a sword made out of coins and holy rope.

I am more sure about the silk bag for tarot though. I know some respectable occultists swear by it.

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post Oct 14 2010, 08:25 PM
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Silk has been cultivated in China since the stone age, and from that time forward the privilege of its use has been a mark of wealth, prestige, and luxury. I suspect that this ancient and pervasive attitude about the stuff, rather than any inherent magical property, has earned its placement among the fine arts associated with magic and the occult.

Using a silk cloth for wrapping a talisman, or as a robe or Tarot tote, makes a statement: "I am taking this seriously."

It can also say, "I am a person of means, and other depend upon me, so I am deserving of the powers I presume to wield."

Silk is easier to get now, so be thankful you can just place an online order rather than walking on foot 500 miles with a sack of gold for a little old worn-out scrap of the stuff. If life was still like that, and silk was still very difficult nd expensive to obtain, I think the importance of using silk would not require any sort of flimsy justification about invisible energy or psychic vibes.


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I've got some serious love for silk, natural silk has a very fine vibration of great quality IMHO. using it is much like using a very fine cologne or perfume that has been well made and has lasting power. One of silks primary attributes is invisibility, or to the unseen, in that way silk can be used as a portal into silent or pristine energies. As also posted by Imperial Arts silk also speaks of means, to have silk is to project elegance, wealth and also power.


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post Oct 17 2010, 09:17 PM
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One of silks primary attributes is invisibility, or to the unseen, in that way silk can be used as a portal into silent or pristine energies. As also posted by Imperial Arts silk also speaks of means, to have silk is to project elegance, wealth and also power.


Invislibility? How so? I'm pretty suprised, which culture is it used in this case? I know that it certainly isn't in Chinese/Daoist/Buddhist

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This is in Western culture. Bear in mind that at the time the grimoires were codified in the Renaissance, silk was only available from Asia and it was expensive and very hard to get. So, the ability to obtain it was pretty much restricted to the upper classes as they were the only ones who could afford it.


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post Oct 18 2010, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(kaboom13 @ Oct 17 2010, 10:17 PM) *

Invislibility? How so? I'm pretty suprised, which culture is it used in this case? I know that it certainly isn't in Chinese/Daoist/Buddhist



Find a piece of silk of appropriate color, spend a few minutes feeling it with your fingers, make sure to vary the speed of the touch from fast to slow. You can choose where to place it next but I would like the forearm just below the elbow. I then close my eyes and then allow myself to slip into the feeling of silk. Remember silk isn't invisibility in the literal sense of the word it represents invisibility in very cunning way, like that silent communication that takes places often times without ourselves realizing it. I hope that helps.

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That's interesting.

My experience with silk is slightly different. My meteor hammer's rope is silk, which is pretty ironic.

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post Oct 19 2010, 01:54 PM
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I don't think it's that surprising that there are differences, we correspond to things differently, it's one of the reasons I would never put much faith in potion or some such made by another person. I would say the power that comes from the potion is in the personal crafting of it, the investment of energy. So on the magical level things are more unique and tend to have differences, hence it's disdain by scientific community. Whereas most of us all agree on what silk represents on the physical as an item of the wealthy and a display of regalness and elegance. It's important to remember that appearances can definitely play a part in magic.


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QUOTE(Bb3 @ Oct 19 2010, 03:54 PM) *

One of the reasons I would never put much faith in potion or some such made by another person. I would say the power that comes from the potion is in the personal crafting of it, the investment of energy.



I can buy this to an extent. I agree that meanings are subjective but to say a potion, assuming a herbal potion of course, is just as subjective as the meaning of silk ignores the long and well established history of alchemy and herbalism. Both agree to a high degree what is a plant correspondence to the elements or planets. same of most common stones and metals. There is also a long history of folk use for plants that is out side of alchemy but corresponds roughly with other systems.

If we split the object from its cultural associations and look solely at its physical properties, the way herbalist and alchemists look at their respective materials, silk should be classifiable in the same manner as other objects. Ruling planet, element type and sub type, perhaps even zodiac sign. I would guess that silk is of the water element and Mercury for its fine texture and cool feel. zodiac sign like is related to when the wild silk worm make its cocoon.


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post Dec 24 2010, 05:56 AM
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FJ, as always, nicely done peace of reasoning, of course I must agree that silk, like any potion has a subjective energy, furthermore the deeper you dig into silk, or a more complex substance, the more answers that you'll find. My experience with silk is stated well; it's a great substance, especially for working within the Art. Yet a person can touch something in so many different ways or aspects, the most common example is of attraction of the physical nature. We might meet someone who feels so right physically, yet in the tell all of it, is not attractive to most others. That's the way of things... no person can assume a vibration permanent, it's beyond our word, it's beyond our thought even, maybe. That's really the problem with hardcore zodiacal association to be quite truthful. Within a realm of littered feeling one might find the truth, but not among a room full of tacks.

In the end personal orientation lies within the person, not within the fabric; it's much like looking into a mountain and asking: "which way shall I enter?" so many different ways, and sometimes the peak isn't exactly the place you want to be.

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