Is anyone here REALLY wealthy? Options

true.

That is perhaps why my magick strength has increased since i let go.

I no longer care about my studies, but i still do strong magick to help me pass.
I do not really care about passing this year, but it makes my life easier, so i logically steer it that way.
But without fear and negativity, or any kind of emotional attachment, all that remains is the magical will to pass. Which i find is rather strong, strange things happen when i do magick, so much luck that it seems almost absurd. At rare occasions i even remember things i never learned or read about.

But to get to the point.
The above posts by me have not much to do with magick.
Those are problems i encountered while trying to achieve "enlightenment", after much meditation and study of the tao.
Those feelings are because of eastern philosophies like zen, taoism, Buddhism. Those form the strong backbone to my magical studies.
It does things with your mind, strong reprogramming almost, that can get tricky at times.

Like with the emptiness feeling. Its so cold and lonely, and it makes one think about things like suicide. Not because life is to hard, but because life seems empty and without meaning. I can still see myself playing with my sword and wondering how it would feel if it pierced me, just because it seemed interesting at that time, because my life did not mean more to me than the knowledge of how death would feel.
I can still taste it, I'm even feeling it a little now.

I can't really tell how i truly fixed that, but somehow i seem to be able to control it. So there must be a way, I'm sorry that i don't know more.

Anyway, all of this is so much off-topic, not that i care because it has been highly interesting. I learned much from searching myself like this...

My path (at the moment) has taken me away from magick, I describe it as being beyond magick. I don't mean that in an arrogant way, to try and make out that I am so powerful that I no longer need to do magick. What I mean is that I have seen the falacy (for me) of trying to control the universe. All I can do is to reprograme myself, to change my perspective, rather than try and take control of the universe.

It is all part of the process of letting go, learning to desire but not to have attachment to those desires. These are concepts you can read about in any Zen or Buddhist book and understand on an intellectual level, but to actually achieve these things is very difficult. I sit Zazen and appear calm on the outside, and yet this masks an inner turmoil.

Some would say that you are still doing magick this way and that your wealth will be found within.

I certainly see magick as control of myself and my energies and very little to do with controlling the universe, it is about mastery of my self.

Very true Radiant Star. Magick is first about mastering yourself. How can we control other things if we cannot even control ourselfs? We simply cannot control what we do not understand.

I agree. It just seems to be these days that people get in to magick so they can cast love spells or wealth spells (see that folks, I kinda dragged myself back on-topic (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ) rather than doing magick to effect self change and growth.

I don't think there is anything wrong with using magick to advance your self in the material world.
Let me rephrase that:
I don't there is anything wrong with using skills to advance your self in the material world.

A good soccer player can get rich of his skills. A master artist can get rich by selling paintings drawn by using his skills. A skilled engineer can get rich by designing complex things.

But a magician should not use his skills to advance himself, to give him that extra edge against the competition?

I worked hard and studied hard to acquire the magical skills i now posses, so why shouldn't i use them.
Natural born geniuses are advancing themselves even faster using there intellect. Its like saying to such a genius to go work in a factory at a low pay, because it is unfair to use his skills.

I don't see how it is going against the will of the universe to use magick, if it were then magick would not exist anyway...
I think a man should use ALL his skills and abilities when he can. Doing otherwise equals submission and possible defeat.

This has nothing to do with the morality of magick, a genius can use his intellect to become a clever mass murderer or terrorist. Thats beside the point on this one.

I suppose that if you work on yourself with magick, it enables you to go out and create what you want in the physical world; for instance, I have seen some things about myself during ritual that have helped me see habits or behaviours that affect myself and others around me either positively or sometimes not and then been able to work on these areas. That is how magick is good for the soul and makes one wealthy through in that way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't remember a time when anyone in my family had been wealthy, or even above middle-class for, oh, 6 generations. I'm currently pulling myself out of destitution (of the ramen noodles are gourmet meals and city roaches are great neighbors variety), and it's tough work. If I ever reached a point of wealth, I'd go and lend others a hand... the city I live in isn't known for their generosity towards the poor and the homeless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/black eye.gif)

I think that depends on your definition of "absolutely minted".

No, I wouldn't say very wealthy. My parents are doing good and in my culture our parents look after us until we get married. Including school tuition, a home, food, clothing. But we must reciprocate the tradition and take care of them when we are older. I am not one to live off my parents riches, but so many people I know are spoiled and waste away an oppurtunity to get an education or job solely based on their "belief" that they will eventually take over their parents business.

To your original question, no I am not rich. It takes hardwork, 15 hour shifts, 7 days a week, and a never say die attitude.

Money is not the most difficult achievement in life. Satisfaction is. With money as a frame of reference for satisfaction, fulfilment and happiness (at one time, not now), I set out, as you're probably contemplating, to change everything, to achieve assets regardless of cost.

In some measure I achieved this. I did perform magick and it did bring me good fortune, and no I don't consider it black or grey or anything else. But in the end it's a trap. You'll never have enough unless that point of view eventually changes -- as it did for me. But I do have a "wealth" servitor, as well as a "health" servitor and "protection" servitor, and they all work hard, and it's wonderful. But you have to work hard TOO. Magick fulfills by the "easiest path" and to make magick work and to give servitors power, you have to leave the house, educate, work hard (for me it meant seventy to eighty hours a week). At some point, you'll realize it's not really what matters, but YES, the magick works -- if you empower it with your will, your work and your good intentions.

Give it time. It took me years, but I did get all I needed -- and then I realized it wasn't what I really needed after all. It's all an illusion in the end. But it works.

Not wealthy (yet), I work a night-shift get paid shit.

But as I start doing my publishings, I may make some money and get the hell out of here.

My papa is, but I rarely see a dime unless its for survival!