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post May 8 2008, 10:08 AM
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i get this feeling everyday at about 5. It is this feeling of a huge amount of joy, awe and pureness, but then this feelng of anxiety is also aorused by these feelings.
and because of these dualities risings it creates a butterfly feeling, which seems very spiritual.
has anybody had this before or are there any rituals or magickal performances one can perform o lessen it.thankyou (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post May 8 2008, 01:46 PM
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i get this feeling everyday at about 5. It is this feeling of a huge amount of joy, awe and pureness, but then this feelng of anxiety is also aorused by these feelings.


It is the differential between the spiritual and material consciousness. The spiritual consciousness is beyond the ego, and sees all of existence as it is supposed to be, and when we are in contact with it, even briefly, we feel what you describe, and then some, I suppose depending on the depth of that connection - which grows over time, as well as lasting longer. The feelings of anxiety are the ego's response, based on a number of things - for one, it's a brief experience of 'beyond the ego'; while the ego is certain that there is nothing beyond itself. Secondly there is the stark contrast between the Spiritual and Material experience - the spiritual experience is joy, peace, understanding, tranquility; the material experience is suffering, wrongness, struggle, and unrest. When we are faced with a moment of clarity - and I say faced because it can be as much a trial as a blessing - we know for a moment, even if it is not a conscious understanding, that stuck in material consciousness we cannot fully embrace that spiritual moment for very long, and it must be transient unless we immediately sacrifice our ego. Which, can be done in those moments, but that is not to suggest it is any mean task, and it must be done by not-doing, not by doing. You cannot will it to happen. That knowledge, which is already present in the spiritual consciousness, upsets the ego greatly, and it immediately moves to quell those feelings by reminding you of the 'reality' of the world (as it knows it).

Next time it happens try this. Stop thinking, stop feeling, simply sit, whatever you are doing, and be in that sensation. It will still be replaced, and honestly it may be worse at first, but it will help the experience to last longer each time. Also maybe look into the timing of the feeling whatever way you can. If you want to take a look at astrological factors, you might look for a program call AstroClick - you can move the timing backwards and forwards by hours, minutes, and days, and look for any correlations. Another thing you might consider is googling something called "Jacob's Wheel", and reading the site you find on that. It's an interesting take on the 231 gates of the Sefer Yetzirah as a guide to the cyclical nature of incarnation. Whenever you have a regularly occuring experience, it is a good idea to both accept it as it is, experience it, be it without condition; but also approach it rationally and try to understand it, as these can be incredible learning experiences both 'academically' and in the sense of understanding how you work and why. Consider your thoughts around that time, both what you are thinking and the quality of thought in general, and the events in your life that might have taken place around the first time it happened.

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post May 9 2008, 01:03 AM
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thank you so much that has made the feeling so much more clearer and today i will camly do my best to start to get a grip on it.
have you experienced it your self? i have been having the feeling for months, and even doctors havent even had an opinion,
so i am hugely grateful for that light on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Since it is an insight into spiritual experience like you say can you use it to its advantage in ritual work?
(sorry if its to many questions)

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I started having those feelings a few years ago, and the suggestions I gave are what I was given from my guide regarding the experience. So, they may be specific to my particular temperament but it may be a good place to start.
As far as their use in ritual work, they are a side effect of the expansion of consciousness, which can happen because of ritual work or any number of other things, including a karmic 'trigger' of some sort carrying over from a past life, or reflected back from a future life, depending on your point of view of reincarnation and karma. Traumatic experiences, blessing by a spiritual master, it's a long list. Easier to look at it in simple terms of acceptance - it's happening, let me explore it and experience it.
I wouldn't worry about ritual uses. As one's consciousness expands, and as spiritual consciousness comes into contact with material consciousness, it isn't so much about using as following. It's more of a mystical experience than a magical one. Explore mystical philosophies a little, you may be interested in what you find.
There was a saying by someone, "We all become mystics in the end." Magic is driven largely by material consciousness, to accomplish things, etc. Mysticism is driven by spiritual consciousness, the desire to approach God, the Force, whatever, and rests on acceptance, understanding, and submission to that higher will (ultimately your higher will.) If you give into it fully, ritual practice may not matter. Or, you may go back and forth.
Just focus on the experience itself and see where it takes you. For now, I don't try to figure out how to use it, if there is a use for it, that will become self-evident over time.

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thank you very much for your guidance. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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